Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 5:59 PM, antlists wrote: As I remember, you always had to use eselect to switch versions ... and witness all the chaos with python at the moment ... I don't know. If you leave things "at the default", doesn't that screw you over when python/kernel/gcc etc upgrade and a depclean

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 17:26:41 +0100, smurfd wrote: > Massive congrats :) > Great when things work out, after doing a ton of work to get there. As the great Douglas Adams once said "I am rarely happier than when spending an entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-09 Thread smurfd
Massive congrats :) Great when things work out, after doing a ton of work to get there. br smurfd On 2021-03-08 23:06, Grant Taylor wrote: On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 00:59:29 +, antlists wrote: > > It means you probably spent a lot of time compile gcc versions only to > > carry on using the old version, but as you said, this wasn't about > > efficiency. You were going to emerge -e @world at the end anyway, > > which would get everything

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread antlists
On 08/03/2021 23:16, Neil Bothwick wrote: I don't remember what it was at the start, probably 8. or 9.. I did see 9.3 somewhere along the way. gcc -v says that 10.2.0 is currently installed. It means you probably spent a lot of time compile gcc versions only to carry on using the old

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 5:35 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Not if you went up a slot, then the old version would still continue to be used until you ran gcc-config. However, if you were depcleaning at each step, that would remove the previous slot and you would stay current. So my overall method, which included

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 16:44:35 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > > It means you probably spent a lot of time compile gcc versions only > > to carry on using the old version, but as you said, this wasn't about > > efficiency. > > Wouldn't the next execution of gcc, post Emerge & Installation use the

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 4:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: It would have to be done before the first update, when the repo was set to a date just after the last update. Yes and no. It really could have been done at any point along the way. Also, with the git version of the portage repo, I could switch back to

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:44:38 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 3/8/21 3:29 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > With hindsight, removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice and > > replacing them with their -bin counterparts at the start of the > > process would have saved much time. You could switch

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 3:29 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: With hindsight, removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice and replacing them with their -bin counterparts at the start of the process would have saved much time. You could switch back to the source options once the system is up to date. You're

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:06:01 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > The following packages take what seems like F O R E V E R to emerge: > > - gcc > - rust > - Firefox > - Thunderbird With hindsight, removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice and replacing them with their -bin counterparts at

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It /looks/ like things are working. *TL;DR* DenverCoder9: DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE ... This method /does/ work. I have successfully brought

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 08:59:08 +, Michael wrote: > > That's right, the source files are in $DISTDIR, unless you have > > cleaned it. /var/db/pkg contains all the information portage needs > > about the installed software. > > $ emerge --info | grep DISTDIR > > will show if the source files

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-27 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 27 February 2021 08:34:02 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:47:04 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > > The ebuild and what looks like additional metadata files are in the > > /var/db/pkg directory tree. But the source files aren't in the tree. > > At least not for the

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:47:04 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > The ebuild and what looks like additional metadata files are in the > /var/db/pkg directory tree. But the source files aren't in the tree. > At least not for the example package I looked at. That's right, the source files are in

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/26/21 11:55 PM, Arve Barsnes wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying here, but the ebuild files of the installed packages are in /var/db/pkg Hum. Today I Learned... The ebuild and what looks like additional metadata files are in the /var/db/pkg directory tree. But the source files

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 23:30, Grant Taylor wrote: > > If the packages are installed, the ebuilds are in var/db/pkg. > > The package (distribution files) for the version that is installed are > in distfiles. But that does little for an ebuild that's looking for a > newer version that's no longer

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/26/21 12:50 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Ah yes, I hadn't thought about the mirrors being too up to date. There's also issue with older packages being installed. E.g. I have an older kernel source (4.14.127) that I'm keeping around for various reasons. I've found that the Gentoo repo /

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:44:12 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > I have run into a few problems where emerge can't download files. So > I'm finding them online, downloading them, and saving them to > /usr/portage/distfiles. Ah yes, I hadn't thought about the mirrors being too up to date. > I have

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It /looks/ like things are working. This method is working. I have managed to successfully update from 2020-03-24 to 2020-05-29 in one day

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:31:15 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > One added advantage of doing this day by day is that when I do get to > the big changes, things should be fairly clean. Thus hopefully > simplifying the big changes. You are also going to hit the annoying bugs that were fixed a few

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 9:29 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: I'm currently doing an "emerge -DUNe @system" on the restore of /usr/portage (typical PORTDIR) from prior to messing with things today. The system is now stable with a full -DUNe @system. emerge -DUNe @system reboot emerge -DUNe @world &&

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:42:38 GMT Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/25/21 2:51 AM, Michael wrote: > > A reinstall in this context is not a wholesale replace. > > ~blink~ > > > It implies obtaining the latest Stage 3 archive from a mirror, > > but retaining part of your current installation.

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 2:51 AM, Michael wrote: It would probably be better even with a lot of customizations. ;-) Please elaborate on what "better" means in this case. I'm thinking that you might be meaning "faster" and / or "easier" (as in less effort). At least it /should/ be better in terms of

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:51:25 +, Michael wrote: > > Besides, wouldn't each of the incremental processes over the last year > > have been possible? ;-) > > Yes, it would have been, but what is the benefit of updating multiple > packages many times over, instead of doing it just once? One

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/02/21 08:45, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 25.02.2021 um 02:43 schrieb Grant Taylor: >> I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March >> 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. >> >> What is the best way forward? >> >> It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 25 February 2021 04:29:25 GMT Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/24/21 9:16 PM, John Covici wrote: [snip ...] > > Unless you have a lot of customizations, reinstall would be much > > better. It would probably be better even with a lot of customizations. ;-) At least it /should/ be better

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread hitachi303
Am 25.02.2021 um 02:43 schrieb Grant Taylor: I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March 24th 2020.  --  Life has been ... trying. What is the best way forward? It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; glibc, Python 2.7 being deprecated,

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 9:16 PM, John Covici wrote: The portdir has to be the one gotten from git, not rsync, ACK I'm currently doing an "emerge -DUNe @system" on the restore of /usr/portage (typical PORTDIR) from prior to messing with things today. I've got multiple GB of git data. It looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:20:05 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: > > What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to > > roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time > > and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but its worth a shot, otherwise reinstall time. I hit send too soon.

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but its worth a shot, otherwise reinstall time. And what if I was still

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 20:43:39 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: > > I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days > (March 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. > > What is the best way forward? > > It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; > glibc, Python

[gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. What is the best way forward? It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; glibc, Python 2.7 being deprecated, default Python going to 3.7(?), other breaking