Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 07:46:59PM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Jolla do a phone which is Linux based. No idea if this would suit your > > needs but may be worth a look. It's GUI is good and it uses Wayland. > > Not sure how open it is! > > I second Jolla. > FWIW, I consider buying one my

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 09:42:58PM +0100, john wrote: > behrouz khosravi wrote: > > > > If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what > > > you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let > > > somebody else build/install android on a device and not give y

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Jc GarcĂ­a
2015-06-29 14:14 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi : > > I know what you mean. This is all more or less true, but what can we do in > this situation? > I will try to move toward whatever promotes openness, and please do not tell > me that ubuntu > is not more open that android. In android I cant even have

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Linux is a desktop OS. I hope it remains that way. Uh, Linux is a kernel, and even GNU is really a collection of shell-oriented tools, which can be run from Android just fine. So Android IS Linux, at least as much as Gentoo is, or your

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:28:18PM -0500, Dale wrote > What version of Firefox are you using? I've seen some changes made > to Firefox but nothing that drastic. I'm just curious if maybe I'm > still running a older not affected version. > > My reason for asking. I'm volunteer on staff at a soc

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread R0b0t1
I don't have time to catch up on the whole thread yet, but https://neo900.org/ should be interesting. The older n900 phone is quite open as well. Both [will] run an operating system called Maemo. The neo900 solves some of the issues in current phones like the modem sharing memory space with the ma

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 30 June 2015 1:44:24 AM AEST, behrouz khosravi wrote: >> >> It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS >- >> or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the >> bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary). >> > >No, actually my problem is that wh

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:33:08PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote > >> I love to get ride of android altogether! >> I would love to see a platform open enough that I am able to install my >> bootloader on it easily and boot what I prefer using a usb flash memory. >> This is what

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:33:08PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote > I love to get ride of android altogether! > I would love to see a platform open enough that I am able to install my > bootloader on it easily and boot what I prefer using a usb flash memory. > This is what I consider as the linux o

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread john
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:44:23 +0430 behrouz khosravi wrote: > > > > > > If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what > > you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let > > somebody else build/install android on a device and not give you > > root access, th

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
> > > If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what > you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let > somebody else build/install android on a device and not give you root > access, then it is painful. > > If you build/install Gentoo on a device, then it on

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:44 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: >> It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS - >> or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the >> bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary). > > No, actually my problem is that why an op

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread Todd Goodman
* behrouz khosravi [150629 11:45]: > > > > It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS - > > or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the > > bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary). > > > > No, actually my problem is that why an operating sys

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
> > It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS - > or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the > bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary). > No, actually my problem is that why an operating system can have decision on what types of apps can I

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:03 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: > > I love to get ride of android altogether! > I would love to see a platform open enough that I am able to install my > bootloader on it easily and boot what I prefer using a usb flash memory. > This is what I consider as the linux or more

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 29/06/15 21:03, behrouz khosravi wrote: > I believe there was an effort to get Gentoo Prefix running on Android > as part of GSoC. I've yet to try it myself but you might find that > useful. I doubt it runs x11, but your typical x11 application isn't > really going to work well

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
> > I believe there was an effort to get Gentoo Prefix running on Android > as part of GSoC. I've yet to try it myself but you might find that > useful. I doubt it runs x11, but your typical x11 application isn't > really going to work well on a smartphone anyway unless you get a > bluetooth mous

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:54 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: > I am eagerly waiting for seeing the traditional linux ecosystem on phones > and tablet. > I hate Android and I think it is not what we deserve to have on our > hardware. I believe there was an effort to get Gentoo Prefix running on Androi

[gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hello everyone. I am eagerly waiting for seeing the traditional linux ecosystem on phones and tablet. I hate Android and I think it is not what we deserve to have on our hardware. So is anyone using ubuntu on phones? (I am not a fan of ubuntu but I thinks at this moment it is closest thing to what