Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 May 2007 23:05:56 -0400, Denis wrote: I use 'gunzip -c /proc/config.gz .config make oldconfig' consistently, never had a problem. I always keep a working kernel in Oh neat-o! I didn't know there was a copy of the running config in /proc... It's an option you need to

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:37:16 -0400, Denis wrote: While we're on the subject of administration, I have a question about emerge. Sometimes emerge would display important information in green or yellow stars after it's finished merging a package - such as warnings or valuable tips. However, if

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-30 Thread John covici
on Wednesday 05/30/2007 Denis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote While we're on the subject of administration, I have a question about emerge. Sometimes emerge would display important information in green or yellow stars after it's finished merging a package - such as warnings or valuable tips.

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-30 Thread Eray Aslan
On 30.05.2007 10:21, Neil Bothwick wrote: This runs in the early hours, so I can read it whenever it suits me during the day and apply the changes as I want. I run testing, so frequent updating is a good thing; with a stable system, weekly would be fine, but the longer you leave it the more

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-30 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually dread kernel updates because then I have to go through kernel menuconfig all over again, and for me, that takes some time. I guess one can reuse the old .config file, but I understand it's not always a safe thing

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-30 Thread Denis
I read the man make.conf and also the make.conf.example. Seems pretty clear, except what is the qa option for the PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES variable? And I assume the info option logs all the green-star stuff at the end of emerge? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:20:13 -0400, Denis wrote: I read the man make.conf and also the make.conf.example. Seems pretty clear, except what is the qa option for the PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES variable? And I assume the info option logs all the green-star stuff at the end of emerge? qa = Quality

[gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Denis
I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Mark Shields
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Ryan Sims
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 10:01 -0400, Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by daily server. Did you

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:01:39 -0400 Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 09:48 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 10:01 -0400, Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say.

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Roy Wright
Daniel Iliev wrote: I have a daily cron job containing: === emerge --sync \ emerge -DuNf world \ glsa-check -t all 21 | mail -s GLSA report root === In other words it syncs the tree, fetches all the new packages and then checks for security vulnerabilities. If glsa-chack says This

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Ralf Stephan
You wrote How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? I have settled to a 5-day routine, when I sync, update completely the system target, and go through the listing of changes to world, where

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Dienstag 29 Mai 2007 16:01 schrieb Denis: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread kashani
Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world?

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Denis
All these responses are very helpful - thanks for taking your time to reply! Yea, my needs are pretty simple - just maintaining computational workstations (one at home, one at work) - I am the primary user. I am not running any servers on either box. I've never used cron - I haven't felt the

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Tim Allinghan
Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world?

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Denis
On 5/29/07, Tim Allinghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last thing before I hop off each night, emerge --sync followed by a -pv -uDN world, if I'm happy I fire it up and head to bed :) I'm sure that makes for particularly sweet dreams ;-) One thing I've wondered about... When you update X or

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Ryan Sims
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/29/07, Tim Allinghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last thing before I hop off each night, emerge --sync followed by a -pv -uDN world, if I'm happy I fire it up and head to bed :) I'm sure that makes for particularly sweet dreams ;-) One thing I've

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 22:20 -0400, Ryan Sims wrote: On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/29/07, Tim Allinghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last thing before I hop off each night, emerge --sync followed by a -pv -uDN world, if I'm happy I fire it up and head to bed :) I'm sure

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Denis
On 5/29/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use 'gunzip -c /proc/config.gz .config make oldconfig' consistently, never had a problem. I always keep a working kernel in Oh neat-o! I didn't know there was a copy of the running config in /proc... Does this basically just insert the

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually dread kernel updates because then I have to go through kernel menuconfig all over again, and for me, that takes some time. I guess one can reuse the old .config file, but I understand it's not always a safe thing to do. Is it reasonably ok

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 09:01:39 Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. In server-land I would perform all upgrades on a test system

Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?

2007-05-29 Thread Denis
While we're on the subject of administration, I have a question about emerge. Sometimes emerge would display important information in green or yellow stars after it's finished merging a package - such as warnings or valuable tips. However, if emerge is processing several packages in a chain, it