Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:08:30 -0500, Dale wrote: People seem to forget tho that I have told people to try to use hal, Yes, but only people you dislike :P I don't dislike anybody tho. Hal does work for quite a few people. It just doesn't work for some and

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:08:30 -0500, Dale wrote: > People seem to forget tho that I have told people to try to use hal, Yes, but only people you dislike :P -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Sunday 18 July 2010 01:08:30, Dale a écrit : > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Saturday 17 July 2010 22:17:32 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > >>> See how fantastic this is? See how this conforms to The One True (Unix) > >>> Way? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> See how it looks nothing like XML (invented by a Wi

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-17 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 17 July 2010 22:17:32 Stéphane Guedon wrote: See how fantastic this is? See how this conforms to The One True (Unix) Way? See how it looks nothing like XML (invented by a Windows user, obviously), and actually looks a lot like perl with regexes? On seco

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 17 July 2010 22:17:32 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > See how fantastic this is? See how this conforms to The One True (Unix) > > Way? > > > > > > > > See how it looks nothing like XML (invented by a Windows user, > > obviously), and actually looks a lot like perl with regexes? > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-17 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:29:43, Alan McKinnon a écrit : > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:12:32 Dale wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > >> I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules > > >> (without relation

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-17 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:29:43, Alan McKinnon a écrit : > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:12:32 Dale wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > >> I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules > > >> (without relation

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-17 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Wednesday 14 July 2010 16:44:45, Alan McKinnon a écrit : > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules > > (without relation to udev). > > > > But I don't like udev, its syntax is really hard to understand fo

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-14 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:12:32 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules (without relation to udev). But I don't like udev, its synt

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:12:32 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > >> I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules > >> (without relation to udev). > >> > >> But I don't like udev, its syntax is really hard

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-14 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules (without relation to udev). But I don't like udev, its syntax is really hard to understand for user ! Dale, here's your chance to jump

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules > (without relation to udev). > > But I don't like udev, its syntax is really hard to understand for user ! Dale, here's your chance to jump in and comment. This user

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-14 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le lundi 12 juillet 2010 10:31:34, Neil Bothwick a écrit : > On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:19:25 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > > How? I know how to use udev for device recognition, but how do you > > > tell it to use a particular keyboard layout? > > > > 19:18:09 steph...@luciole:/etc/udev/rules.d $

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:19:25 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > How? I know how to use udev for device recognition, but how do you > > tell it to use a particular keyboard layout? > > 19:18:09 steph...@luciole:/etc/udev/rules.d $ cat 61-x11-input.rules > SUBSYSTEM!="input", GOTO="x11_input_end"

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-11 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le jeudi 08 juillet 2010 01:13:56, Neil Bothwick a écrit : > On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:19:14 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > > Until your version of Xorg stops supporting HAL, when you will need an > > > xorg.conf. > > > > You can also pass through udev ! > > How? I know how to use udev for device

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-11 Thread Ronan Mainbourg
If you use a recent version of xorg-server (>= 1.8) you can enable the "udev" use flag, and disable the flag "hal". Hal usage with xorg is clearly deprecated now, and its complete removal from xorg-server is scheduled soon, as it will be eventually replaced by the new abstraction layer from freede

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-08 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Neil Bothwick : > On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:23:13 +0200, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > > Set in in xorg.conf. there's a thread on the forums that deals with > > > this using HAL fdi files, but those are not deprecated for Xorg. > > Whoops, don't know how that "not" crept in, HAL is depr

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:19:14 +0200, Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > Until your version of Xorg stops supporting HAL, when you will need an > > xorg.conf. > > You can also pass through udev ! How? I know how to use udev for device recognition, but how do you tell it to use a particular keyboard layou

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-07 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le mercredi 07 juillet 2010 17:58:15, Neil Bothwick a écrit : > On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:23:13 +0200, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > Set in in xorg.conf. there's a thread on the forums that deals with > > > this using HAL fdi files, but those are not deprecated for Xorg. > > Whoops, don't kno

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:23:13 +0200, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > Set in in xorg.conf. there's a thread on the forums that deals with > > this using HAL fdi files, but those are not deprecated for Xorg. Whoops, don't know how that "not" crept in, HAL is deprecated for Xorg. > > http://foru

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-07 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Neil Bothwick : > On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:56:17 +0200, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > I log in thru kdm. As I'm french, I have an azerty keyboard. By > > default, kdm use a qwerty keymap. That's a problem when it comes to > > entering passwords. How do I get kdm launched with an azerty

Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:56:17 +0200, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > I log in thru kdm. As I'm french, I have an azerty keyboard. By > default, kdm use a qwerty keymap. That's a problem when it comes to > entering passwords. How do I get kdm launched with an azerty keymap ? > (nothing relevant fo

[gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard

2010-07-07 Thread alain . didierjean
I log in thru kdm. As I'm french, I have an azerty keyboard. By default, kdm use a qwerty keymap. That's a problem when it comes to entering passwords. How do I get kdm launched with an azerty keymap ? (nothing relevant found in kdmrc).