Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-31 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Aug 30 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/08/2013 17:18, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 30 2013, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> >>> gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2013 17:18, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30 2013, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>> I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. >>> >>> I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" to >>> the handbook. That is it would t

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread joost
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >On Fri, Aug 30 2013, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>>I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. >>> >>>I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" >to >>>the handbook. That is it would tell you how to augment ea

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2013 16:37, Tanstaafl wrote: >> And for a good reason: is braindead. > > Again - it is only braindead if you accept the basic premise that it > 'makes sense' to put files critical to the boot process into /usr. > > Personally, I think it only 'makes sense' to put files critical to the >

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-30 10:28 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> udev/eudev has nothing to do with it. It's the init systems (as in >> both systemd and OpenRC) the ones that are pushing/have pushed for >> dropping support for it. In Gentoo, the move is

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Aug 30 2013, J. Roeleveld wrote: > gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. >> >>I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" to >>the handbook. That is it would tell you how to augment each handbook >>installation chapt

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-30 10:38 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 30/08/2013 16:37, Tanstaafl wrote: Personally, I think it only 'makes sense' to put files critical to the boot process into /boot. It's not the boot process. It's the startup-to-early-init process. Or put another way, the entire start process

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-30 10:28 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: udev/eudev has nothing to do with it. It's the init systems (as in both systemd and OpenRC) the ones that are pushing/have pushed for dropping support for it. In Gentoo, the move is being championed by William Hubs: http://thread.gmane.org/gman

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-30 3:16 AM, Dale wrote: >> >> Example, don't want a init thingy, put / on a regular partition and >> normal file system, just make sure you won't fill it up for a very >> long time. Of course /boot has to be on a regular file system t

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-30 3:16 AM, Dale wrote: Example, don't want a init thingy, put / on a regular partition and normal file system, just make sure you won't fill it up for a very long time. Of course /boot has to be on a regular file system too. Well, apparently this now includes /usr, as from what I g

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/08/2013 07:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/08/2013 03:45, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or initramfs * both grub and grub2 support lvm >>> Does GRUB l

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/08/2013 07:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> No. Grub legacy does not support LVM for the /boot. That's why I >>> have it there. UEFI only understands FAT. Which means you need to >>> have a boot partition outsi

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2013 07:21, J. Roeleveld wrote: > Canek, > > LVs can be resized while the system is running. It also depends on the > actual filesystem, but extending can be done online with all filesystems > I am aware of. > Shrinking is not possible with all. no fs can be reduced whilst mounted, most

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2013 07:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > > I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2013 03:45, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or initramfs >>> >>> * both grub and grub2 support lvm >> >> Does GRUB legacy handles /boot in

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or initramfs * both grub and grub2 support lvm

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or initramfs >>> >>> * both grub and grub2 support lvm >> >> Does GRUB legacy handles /boot in LVM? I haven't tried t

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
"Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:47 AM, wrote: >> I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. >> >> I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" >to >> the handbook. That is it would tell you how to augment each handbook >> install

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
"Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:47 AM, wrote: >> I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. >> >> I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" >to >> the handbook. That is it would tell you how to augment each handbook >> install

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. > >I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" to >the handbook. That is it would tell you how to augment each handbook >installation chapter for lvm (actually lvm2). > >I can't find this

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:45 PM, wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or initramfs >>> >>> * both grub and grub2 support lvm >> >> Does GRUB legacy handles /boot in LVM

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >> >> I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or initramfs >> >> * both grub and grub2 support lvm > > Does GRUB legacy handles /boot in LVM? I haven't tried that yet. That I don't know. I b

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> As James said, the docs are being reorganized. However, I did a >> systemd+LVM installation (just because I was getting tired of not >> knowing what the fuss was all about), and (in my experience) there

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > As James said, the docs are being reorganized. However, I did a > systemd+LVM installation (just because I was getting tired of not > knowing what the fuss was all about), and (in my experience) there are > almost no changes from the regular instal

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:47 AM, wrote: > I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. > > I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" to > the handbook. That is it would tell you how to augment each handbook > installation chapter for lvm (actually lvm2)

[gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread gottlieb
I want to reinstall an old system to have combined root+usr. I have always used an lvm installation guide that was a "companion" to the handbook. That is it would tell you how to augment each handbook installation chapter for lvm (actually lvm2). I can't find this documentation now on gentoo.org