Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread euggordon
Fred; Thanks for the agreement. I am not sure with what you don't agree. Anyway all should know that patents worldwide are granted to those first to file and not to those first to invent. A prior mention of an invention or an idea related to an invention in the public domain generally prevents

Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread Fred Zimmerman
Just to clarify reason for asking about patents: I agree with most of what Gene says below. Patent law has become an embarrassment and serves mainly as a mechanism for trolls to exact unearned taxes from those who are doing useful things. However, the body of patent law on a topic is a necessary

Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread Jim Lee
Mick West's comments are heavily biased on the assumption that I attribute my research to the "chemtrail conspiracy" when in fact my intention is to elevate the Grade School l

[geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread Jim Lee
I made that list, and I must warn you, the geoengineering section at the top of the page is far from finished. Further, the weather modification/particle distribution patents at the bottom of the page only cover 1900-2003. I will be repackaging all of my weather modification research in the nea

Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread euggordon
Most of the patents are out of date and/or US patents. All will be out of date by the time anyone is ready to geoengineer the climate. US patents alone won't cut it since solutions will cross boundaries. Geoengineers should focus on science and solutions and not look to get rich on their inventi

Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread Fred Zimmerman
Yes, it is a bad list. So far it appears that there is no scientifically credible "list" and that this is a gap. There are also definitional issues:should we call something a "geoengineering" patent if it is for a device that could be used either at local or at global scales? Should the term "geo

Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread Mick West
It's not good at all. It does contain quite a few geoengineering patents, but it also contains a load of patents for speculative or unrelated things influenced by the "chemtrail" and "HAARP is a super weapon" conspiracy theories. Unfortunately any search for "geoengineering patents" brings up a sl

[geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

2013-06-25 Thread Chris Vivian
Fred, This list of patents was referred to by Clive Hamilton. I don't know how good it is. http://rezn8d.net/2013/04/14/climate-engineering-patents/ Chris. On Monday, 24 June 2013 21:31:49 UTC+1, Fred Zimmerman wrote: > has anyone got a good list of major geoengineering patents? > > --- >

[geo] Secret meeting on climate dangers convened last summer (Canada)

2013-06-25 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/touch/story.html?id=8573384 BY MIKE DE SOUZA, POSTMEDIA NEWS JUNE 25, 2013 Prime Minister Stephen Harper's national security adviser Stephen Rigby turned down a request to join a secret meeting attended by other senior government officials invited last summer to plan

[geo] Tim Lenton Opinion Article: Can Emergency Geoengineering Really Prevent Climate Tipping Points?

2013-06-25 Thread Geoengineering Our Climate (eds. Blackstock, Miller and Rayner)
Dear colleagues, Tim Lenton (University of Exeter) has penned an Opinion Article for the 'Geoengineering Our Climate?' series titled "Can Emergency Geoengineering Really Prevent Climate Tipping Points?" You can find his article (and download a PDF) at: http://geoengineeringourclimate.com/2013/06/