RE: [geo] The Carbonate Solution, Part 2:

2016-07-06 Thread Schuiling, R.D. (Olaf)
That was some positive comment on my olivine concept. I would like to react to one sentence, about the spreading of olivine over vast areas, preferably in tropical climates. Why not by this rather crazy idea? Cheap transport of olivine? Transport costs for olivine can be fairly high. Tropical co

RE: [***SPAM***] Re: [geo] The Carbonate Solution, Part 2:

2016-07-06 Thread Schuiling, R.D. (Olaf)
You can’t steer the wind but rivers always go in one fixed direction and in the wet season you know where they will spill over. Dropping your olivine in a river is much easier and better controlled than trying to get a load of fine grains to be carried away by the wind in a controlled way , and

[geo] The Crutzen Book

2016-07-06 Thread 'Motoko' via geoengineering
Dear list, there is a book about Paul Crutzen, his life and work: Crutzen, Paul J.; Brauch, Hans Günter (2016): Paul J. Crutzen: A Pioneer on Atmospheric Chemistry and Climate Change in the Anthropocene. Cham: Springer International Publishing (SpringerBriefs on Pioneers in Science and Practi

[geo] CDR as Mitigation

2016-07-06 Thread Wil Burns
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Ken Caldeira mailto:kcalde...@gmail.com>> wrote: I think of carbon dioxide removal as a form of mitigation and of solar geoengineering as an extreme form of adaptation. I find the characterization of CDR as "mitigation" as both inaccurate and ill-advised in the

Re: [geo] CDR as Mitigation

2016-07-06 Thread Adam Dorr
I agree with Dr Burns, the conflation of CDR with mitigation is problematic. It is both more logical and more politically expedient for CDR to be referred to as "restoration" or "remediation". -- Adam Dorr University of California Los Angeles School of Public Affairs Urban Planning PhD Candidate a

Re: [geo] CDR as Mitigation

2016-07-06 Thread Ken Caldeira
CDR reduces net emissions. What is the difference between a coal plant with CCS and a bio energy facility without CCS versus a coal plant without CCS and a bio energy facility with CCS? Why should the addition of CCS be considered mitigation in the first case but not in the second case? On Wed,

Re: [geo] CDR as Mitigation

2016-07-06 Thread Hawkins, Dave
I like to think of this question in terms of partitioning of the planet's carbon stock. Global carbon is divided into two reservoirs: the lithosphere (rocks and fossil fuels) and the biosphere (soil, biomass, oceans, atmosphere). While some climate disruption is presented by transfers within the

RE: [geo] CDR as Mitigation

2016-07-06 Thread Wil Burns
Dear Ken, I don’t agree that CDR reduces “net emissions;” rather it seeks to reduce the net amount of carbon stocks in the atmosphere. That can have profoundly different results than actually reducing GHG emissions, if: it simply results in displacement of emissions in other places due to ongoi

[geo] Red planet: What Mars can teach us about geoengineering

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://www.climatechangenews.com/2016/07/04/red-planet-what-mars-can-teach-us-about-geoengineering/ Red planet: What Mars can teach us about geoengineering Published on 04/07/2016, 3:36pm The geology of meteorites from Mars could help to predict the long term effects of carbon capture and storage

[geo] Can Kelp Save The Pacific Ocean?

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew Lockley
Poster's note : mitigation, adaptation, or geoengineering? http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/07/06/3795470/kelp-ocean-acidification/?utm_content=bufferb8bb4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Can Kelp Save The Pacific Ocean? BY NATASHA GEILING JUL 6, 2016 9:03 AM W

[geo] The Carbonate Solution, Part 1: Brute Force

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://www.theenergycollective.com/roger-arnold/2381301/the-carbonate-solution-part-1-brute-force The Carbonate Solution, Part 1: Brute Force June 21, 2016 by Roger Arnold This week I want to expand on the potential role of carbonate minerals for fighting rising CO₂ levels in the atmosphere. Pre

Re: [geo] CDR as Mitigation

2016-07-06 Thread Greg Rau
Ken et al.  Perhaps the difference between fossil CCS and BE CCS is intent(?) If BE already exists and CCS is added, then that's CO2 mitigation(?) If BECCS is installed specifically to generate C negative energy, then that's CDR restoration or remediation(?) While on the subject of semantics, ho

Re: [geo] Red planet: What Mars can teach us about geoengineering

2016-07-06 Thread Greg Rau
You don't have to go Mars to learn of the primary role mineral weathering   plays in modulating atmospheric CO2 here on Earth* (!?)  Certainly agree that it would seem foolish not to seriously research how to accelerate this proven, global (and interstellar) scale natural process (carbonate and s