[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread Oliver Wingenter
advantage of SRM. > > > But we need to see ultruistic people with money stepping forward, where > > governments fear to tread.  Has anybody worked on Bill Gates?  Here's a > > chance to save the world! > > > Cheers, > > > John > > > - Original

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread Andrew Lockley
ar to tread. Has anybody worked on Bill Gates? Here's a > chance to save the world! > > Cheers, > > John > > - Original Message - > From: David Schnare > To: Lane, Lee O. > Cc: Geoengineering > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:27 PM > Subject: [g

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread Lane, Lee O.
] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo Gentlemen, Your arguing makes it seem that SRM is terribly expensive. It is peanuts in relation to its use in saving the Arctic sea ice, which has acted as a global thermostat throughout the Ice Ages until we just broke it. The signs are

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread dwschnare
Cc: Geoengineering Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:27 PM Subject: [geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo Lee: Nicely put. Keep in mind, however, Coase assumes a perfect market for these tradeoffs. As there is a free-rider problem, I'm not sure the balance

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread John Nissen
h for raising interesting points. Best regards, Lee Lane From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com on behalf of David Schnare Sent: Fri 12/12/2008 12:26 PM To: Geoengineering Subject: [geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo Gents

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread David Schnare
e neglect of adaptation. > > > > Thank you both for raising interesting points. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Lee Lane > > ________ > > From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com on behalf of David Schnare > Sent: Fri 12/12/2008 12:26 PM >

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread Lane, Lee O.
To: dwschn...@gmail.com ; Alvia Gaskill <mailto:agask...@nc.rr.com> Cc: Geoengineering <mailto:Geoengineering@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: [geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread David Schnare
ges and > high precipitation floods, living by tidal Thames. Hey, what about the > former mayor, Ken Livingston? (The new mayor wouldn't be interested.) > > Cheers from Chiswick > > John > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Mike MacCracken <mailto

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread Mike MacCracken
l Message - >>> From: Mike MacCracken <mailto:mmacc...@comcast.net> >>> To: dwschn...@gmail.com ; Alvia Gaskill <mailto:agask...@nc.rr.com> >>> Cc: Geoengineering <mailto:Geoengineering@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:22 PM

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread David Schnare
gt; John > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Mike MacCracken > *To:* dwschn...@gmail.com ; Alvia Gaskill > *Cc:* Geoengineering > *Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2008 4:22 PM > *Subject:* [geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo > > Hi David—Y

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread John Nissen
Re: [geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo Hi Mike, Perhaps we should try insurance companies, or even better, reinsurance. They are interested in avoiding disasters, however they are caused. Does anybody have good contacts? I have a particular interest in avoiding sea

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread David Schnare
Mike: I didn't say incentivizing was a good idea. I simply explained how one would do it. David. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Mike MacCracken wrote: > Hi David—Your proposal is just the reason why there is resistance to > geoengineering. The idea is to not have geoengineering slow the nee

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread Mike MacCracken
Hi David‹Your proposal is just the reason why there is resistance to geoengineering. The idea is to not have geoengineering slow the needed rapid reduction in GHG emissions, but to be in addition to it‹for given how rapidly the environment is changing we will need to have geoengineering as well as

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread David Schnare
You would link it to carbon emissions , allowing greater emissions in direct trade with investment on mass scale carbon sequestration and a premium (lesser but still real emissions allowances) for X years for SRM. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Alvia Gaskill wrote: > How would you "incenti