Mr Hamilton:
I don't think it's personal abuse to point out that you oppose research in
what may (probably will) be desperately needed in a decade or two. As
several here point out, there's a clear present danger in the Arctic. This
will worsen and you will have no solution at all.
Perhaps you th
Hi Lou,
You say it boils down to timing and who's suffering.
The assumption from people like Clive Hamilton, who are
anti-geoengineering, is that the crisis is some time in the future. But he
does not consider the situation in the Arctic where the sea ice is in a
death spiral, with repercussions
I think that this situation comes down to timing and who's suffering.
If we're talking about a scenario in which we start to take action fairly
soon, i.e. before the truly horrific impacts begin, then I would contend
that there's still a very high probability of moral hazard; some countries
won
See below a response to the Benford ad hominem from a member. I think
Benford could have chosen his wording better.
Lou's original point about moral hazard doesn't seem to be supported by
empirical studies. At least two published studies, 1 done by NERC, plus my
own research (in revision), have de
"...to cause political leaders to weaken even further their commitment to
Plan A..."
There is little or no commitment. Hamilton shouldn't be taken seriously;
just another frightmonger.
Gregory Benford
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Lou Grinzo wrote:
> When Hamilton says, "One of the foremost
When Hamilton says, "One of the foremost is of course that it’s likely to
cause political leaders to weaken even further their commitment to Plan A",
I think he's pointing to a danger just as great as the risk that we'll
screw this up, e.g. by triggering nasty, unforeseen side effects.
The only
Clive seems increasingly bent on becoming the Helen Caldicott of the
Climate Wars.
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:54:24 AM UTC-4, andrewjlockley wrote:
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> http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/5952
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> Clive Hamilton is professor of public ethics at Australia’s Charles Sturt
> Unive