[geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-13 Thread robot
Hi, there, everybody and greetings from Dar es Salaam. I'm here in Tanzania on a geothermal job. Over a year ago, I posted a PDF of the full paper from JBIS to this group, but no comment ensued. Look for the keywords "Dyson Dots". We (R.G.Kennedy, E.Hughes, K.I. Roy, D.E.Fields) have been wor

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-13 Thread Michael MacCracken
Dear Robert--Very interesting. Given the time scale involved, maybe what to be thinking about, in global climate intervention sense, is stratospheric aerosols first as this can be done quickly, but they have a number of disadvantages, including the problem that backscattering is only about 10%

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-13 Thread Andrew Lockley
Such a system may outlast civilisation. How would it self correct or self destruct as CO2 levels fell? Would it endanger observational satellites or passing spaceships? A On 13 Dec 2016 22:13, "Michael MacCracken" wrote: > Dear Robert--Very interesting. Given the time scale involved, maybe wh

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-13 Thread Michael MacCracken
I should have added that it could be phased down as the CO2/GHG concentrations were lowered or over the likely longer term they would take than the Dyson dots. The real problem is not that the dots would be long lasting--they would need to be controlled to stay roughly where they are, so easy

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-13 Thread Robert G Kennedy III, PE
No, Andrew it would be rather short-lived, decades, say, and even that would require active position maintenance. Remember, the sausage-shaped region around L1 is metastable, not truly stable. So something has to work, albeit not very hard but all the time, to keep itself there. But at least

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-13 Thread Adam Dorr
I find the idea of space-based sunshades interesting, but I'm skeptical that it will ever be practical relative to Earth-based alternatives. Even assuming the sunshades are indeed manufactured in space with off-world (i.e. lunar or asteroid) resources, the prospect of manufacturing and assembling a

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-14 Thread Michael Hayes
Hi Folks, The problem of launching such massive weight, if solved, would itself provide a great deal of climate change mitigation/adaptation benefits beyond Dyson Dots. And so, it is the launch economics which is my primary focus concerning any space based system. Interestingly, trans-atmospher

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-14 Thread Renaud de RICHTER
Dear Group, For the two following SRM proposals: 1/ orbital sunshades 2/ marine cloud brightening Can please some one list: a) the comparative costs b) the technical feasibility c) the possibilities of rapid reversibility d) and the pros & cons Thanks R

Re: [geo] Re: RESEARCHERS INVESTIGATING LARGE SUNSHADES TO COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING

2016-12-14 Thread Robert G Kennedy III, PE
That's two novel thoughts in two days! (launch tubes, implications of robot/AI mfg on terrestrial mfg of geoeng. equipment) I must thank Mr. Leahy for the discourse that his article has stimulated. Mr. RICHTER, I'm in Dar es Salaam on a job, so please give me a couple days to put together a