Re: [Geotools-devel] WFS feature ids

2017-02-27 Thread Rob Atkinson
Gml:identifier was introduced for stable id. Gml:id is really meant for reference with the response document but WFS blurred the line with its getbyid. So it comes down to implementation contracts between service and clients... force ids to be stable, mirror in gml:identifier and allow wfs call

Re: [Geotools-devel] WFS-NG test work

2015-03-18 Thread Rob Atkinson
) and how impressed I have been with the ongoing energy, commitment, and especially community-minded teamwork you guys have managed to sustain. +1 million. Rob Atkinson On 19 March 2015 at 08:08, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote: Managed to review, had a couple questions about

Re: [Geotools-devel] join proposal

2011-06-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi Justin, part of the semantics of a SQL join is that it may return multiple rows per feature (row in joined table) - one for each possible join. The examples dont cover this case, because of disjoint nature of parks, but if you had for example parks within parks then you would get multiple hits

Re: [Geotools-devel] WMS GetFeatureInfo GML output

2010-11-18 Thread Rob Atkinson
-solutions.it wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Rob Atkinson robatkinson...@gmail.com wrote: App-schema allows clients to use style sheets to deal with responses. (Because its a known schema, a stylesheet can be published and used to render it. I have build clients with catalogues

Re: [Geotools-devel] WMS GetFeatureInfo GML output

2010-11-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
App-schema allows clients to use style sheets to deal with responses. (Because its a known schema, a stylesheet can be published and used to render it. I have build clients with catalogues of stylesheets for each feature type - and no way would it be worth bother with ad-hoc flat schemas). We

Re: [Geotools-devel] Have a look at these maps...

2010-10-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
Andrea - you are da man! Awesome work, and great communications too - I reckon someone could follow your little experiment and write an open-source community best-practice case study around it. On both FeatureCollections and the renderer - I think we ought to aim for having a general solution

Re: [Geotools-devel] Binding DirectPosition with app-schema

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
Its great having Andrea starting to exercise this thing. And a WMS would be awesome - it always seems to get pushed down the priority list but is really vital for community acceptance IMHO. And architecturally, supporting a metadata-rich response to a GetFeatureInfo makes a lot of sense. You

Re: [Geotools-devel] Binding DirectPosition with app-schema

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
I dont see that it should be impossible to support a converter in the binding - generally speaking we ought to be able have a mechanism that allows us to drop in capabilities to handle any native data type we encounter for a complexAttribute. Rather than a function that converts a specific JTS

Re: [Geotools-devel] Binding DirectPosition with app-schema

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
I mean inverse functions are a priority for me when I get back to the geotools codebase :-) - but I do think they will rapidly become a point of pain for mappings of local identifiers to gml:names too :-) Rob On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Rob Atkinson robatkinson...@gmail.com wrote: I dont

Re: [Geotools-devel] HashMap Considered Harmful

2010-06-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
Nothing wrong with HashMap - not a weakness - its behaviour is implicit in the hashing algorithm. Its simply using the wrong tool for a job :-) The problem with observation is you see what you want to see, Grasshopper :-) Modern programmers learn about frameworks - old fashioned ones with

Re: [Geotools-devel] Attribute names with spaces

2010-05-08 Thread Rob Atkinson
There's a fundamental problem with technology-specific introspection to create interoperability contracts. Basically, you are bound by the specific persistence platform _and_ your specific introspection mechanism (and whatever modes you wish to complicate it with). So if you introspect for one

Re: [Geotools-devel] How I do to display multiple geometries?

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Atkinson
you need the application-schema support see http://docs.geoserver.org/2.0.0/user/data/app-schema/index.html Rob Atkinson On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Amador Antonio Cuenca sphi0...@gmail.com wrote: I've the follow code, but I can't add multiple geometries because my SimpleFeatureType

Re: [Geotools-devel] Supporting externally provided feature ids

2010-04-13 Thread Rob Atkinson
Agreed, they will be hints for JDBC for DataStore, but app-schema would probably need to treat them as explict configuration, which might then subsequently need to be smuggled as hints to the underlying JDBC store. As you say, shouldnt affect the proposal but we may want to update app-schema

Re: [Geotools-devel] App Schema and others?

2010-04-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
Are you trying to connect to a property file directly - not setting the data store to point to an XML config/mapping file which then references the property file? On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben: As mentioned I am hooking app schema and others

Re: [Geotools-devel] Supporting externally provided feature ids

2010-04-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
This is a fairly important issue - you guys have much greater familiarity than I do with the internal assumptions - but it strikes me that the public ID and the internal table primary key are fundamentally different things, and we're trying to collapse them into a single concept. Simply, I think

Re: [Geotools-devel] Supporting externally provided feature ids

2010-04-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi Andrea can you provide a bit more information about the circumstances that a gml:id needs to be externally provided? The reason I ask is that there is some debate about the whole nature of feature ids. The semantics of gml:name is an id provided by named party (the attribute codeSpace is

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geoserver-devel] New functionality: creating new feature types with an sql query in jdbc data stores

2010-03-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
evil man! Actually, you've pretty much described the extension to app-schema Ben and I have discussed, and I was going to have a play with once I'd gort a coupel of other jobs out of the way... Our idea was to create an inverse mapping using substitution parameters - which is pretty much what

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geoserver-devel] New functionality: creating new feature types with an sql query in jdbc data stores

2010-03-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
I see Gabriel is in the loop - this functionality sounds similar to the sql-datastore module included in the 1.6 community-schemas dependencies - can we get an analysis of how this new initiative compares - and if its equivalent (or more complete) work with Ben to ensure we have some unit tests

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geoserver-devel] New functionality: creating new feature types with an sql query in jdbc data stores

2010-03-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
This did occur to me - but I thought I'd stick with the first issue - can we dump sql-datastore and also have user-defined native sql procedures exposed as filter functions? On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies ben.caradoc-dav...@csiro.au wrote: On 19/03/10 22:22, Andrea Aime

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geotools-dev] App-schema DataAccess producing null prefix for secondary namespaces

2010-02-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi Jacqui just a quick note to pick up on something - (I havent looked deeper into the particular circumstances) setting the Namespace to null is different from not preserving the prefix. Technically,. the prefix is bound to the namespace in the instance document - there really should be no

[Geotools-devel] [jira] Created: (GEOT-2747) migrate functionality to app-schema and remove module

2009-10-01 Thread Rob Atkinson (JIRA)
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Re: [Geotools-devel] Next WPS question: howto create complex parameters (xml String vs object tree)

2009-09-25 Thread Rob Atkinson
for any capabilities designed to support these, so it would be good to have an instance example to play with. Regards Rob Atkinson On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand what you mean with using an java.util.Map to store the complex information

Re: [Geotools-devel] Sanity check - inline

2009-09-14 Thread Rob Atkinson
I dont know where Ben got to, but there is _already_ an implementation for this extension for simple feature types - I need to extend this ability to map to ComplexAttrImpl to complex types, including GML types normally bound directly to JTS implementations... Rob On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:26

Re: [Geotools-devel] representing xml attributes in feature model

2009-09-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
Sitting here with the Guru... one of the GML editors, Simon Cox I got some useful insight into this pattern: 1) it is an encoding artefact, not part of the model (as already argued) 2) the pattern separates the role from the data type - and makes each explicit - so you get a role name, then an

Re: [Geotools-devel] some progress with complex attribute encoding

2009-09-04 Thread Rob Atkinson
quick - pre-dawn jet-lagged response - I'll re-read after breakfast and coffee .. Thanks Justin - this sounds great - well done. How can we get a look at the solution so far? Once we have an approach to maintaining the code the AusScope team can kick in to worry about handling the wierd cases.

Re: [Geotools-devel] representing xml attributes in feature model

2009-09-03 Thread Rob Atkinson
The constructor takes a CollectionProperties which is hard coded to Collections.EMPTY_LIST. In the patch I attached was an experimental modification to GMLSchema : I've updated this and attached it separately so it uses Attribute not Property, now Jody has made the PropertyImpl abstract. Ther

Re: [Geotools-devel] Win32 Hudson: ok to start pestering the mailing list on build failures?

2009-09-01 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 from me too, this is really useful piece of investment Well done! rob On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Simone Giannecchinisimone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote: +1 from me as well Simone. --- Ing. Simone Giannecchini GeoSolutions

Re: [Geotools-devel] GeoTools 2.6 release train gathering steam ...

2009-08-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
one. So I am still a bit unclear on what you would like to see happen?  For now I will make a milestone release and hope you can sort things out later in the week? Jody On 23/08/2009, at 7:11 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: yes - at some length, and I think I tried every remotely possible

Re: [Geotools-devel] Call for vote: commit access for Russell Petty

2009-07-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Ben Caradoc-Daviesben.caradoc-dav...@csiro.au wrote: Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: I nominate Russell Petty for commit rights to the GeoTools repository, for the purposes of submitting and maintaining the webservices module, (as a submodule in the app-schema

Re: [Geotools-devel] Regression in jdbc-ng

2009-07-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 +1 also on escalating the logging level. End users (this usually means deployers to Geoserver) should never have to worry about anything below Warning level, and things at warning level or above should only be things they really need to care about. rob On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM,

Re: [Geotools-devel] Java-collab meeting on geometry

2009-07-08 Thread Rob Atkinson
3d. While we are at it, at some stage we'd like to see support for ISO topology at some stage, so the solution should not close that door. Rob Atkinson On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Jody Garnettjody.garn...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea has done a good job setting up a collaboration opportunity

Re: [Geotools-devel] Commits failing on osgeo svn

2009-07-01 Thread Rob Atkinson
seems to have come good again.. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Ben Caradoc-Daviesben.caradoc-dav...@csiro.au wrote: RobA and I are both seeing this: svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: connection refused by the server svn: OPTIONS request failed on

[Geotools-devel] [jira] Created: (GEOT-2505) GML bindings

2009-05-22 Thread Rob Atkinson (JIRA)
GML bindings Key: GEOT-2505 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-2505 Project: GeoTools Issue Type: Bug Components: ext xml-xsd Affects Versions: 2.6-M2 Reporter: Rob Atkinson Assignee

Re: [Geotools-devel] Modules cleanup wiki page created, please review

2009-05-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
re geometryless module - it is in use by people using the 1.6 complex schema support. I dont plan to do anything else with it: I hope to retire it completely by using the app-schema support for complex data types and the ability to handle SQL dialects in the jdbc-ng stack. It has the status of a

Re: [Geotools-devel] PMC refresh: candidate listing

2009-05-06 Thread Rob Atkinson
As a community member (and not putting myself forward here!) I'm very happy to see the level of available expertise and interest, and would like to thank you all for efforts and being willing to step up. I do have a question regarding the Geotoolkit issue - or rather the strategy for managing the

Re: [Geotools-devel] ComplexTypeImpl

2009-02-27 Thread Rob Atkinson
Great to see the progress, and such constructive support from the community. I'm not so sure I like the sound of moving the SimpleFeatureType out of the hierarchy, though I suppose it does implement the GeneralFeature API... (warning - rhetorical question) Why do we want a SimpleFeature at all?

Re: [Geotools-devel] Namespace support

2009-02-27 Thread Rob Atkinson
Attribute order is in fact important. ISO have specified a implementation hint - aka a UML tag - for attribute order. Simon Cox tells me is a technically mandatory part of the meta-model for features - I'll chase dow the reference if anyone cares that much :-) . Rob On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:15

Re: [Geotools-devel] Reminder: going to split GeoAPI in two modules

2009-02-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 Martin, it would be great for the current round of development to be able to propose changes if needed to the realtively-new-and-untested ISO Feature interfaces in a more flexible environment than the stable components. Governance right-sizing is a Good Thing. rob On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at

Re: [Geotools-devel] GeoTools commit access for Rini Angreani

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 from me too. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:07 PM, rini.angre...@csiro.au wrote: Hi Jody, Thank's for the vote. I've completed the contributor agreement and will send it as soon as possible. I think the developers guide is good. The project conventions, especially, have some useful tips that

Re: [Geotools-devel] PSC and motivation

2009-01-24 Thread Rob Atkinson
We're fairly close to the EU agenda within the application schemas support - which is fairly well supported in Geotools, not yet yet in geoserver. - most of the application schemas we are using as test case and business drivers international efforts that will be adopted by INSPIRE (eg GeoSciML) or

Re: [Geotools-devel] review of gml 3.2 patch

2008-12-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
Thanks Justin, I couldnt work out how to generate this myself, and I had interpreted your previous comment that we may be able to put an adaptor up. Hopefully you found the hack resources I put together to remove the dependencies - I totally agree with this approach - GML3.2 is just broken IMHO!

Re: [Geotools-devel] OSGeo username for Adrian Custer

2008-12-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi CSIRO's contributor agreement is meant to cover myself and Ben Caradoc-Davies,already committers. we will ask for others if an when appropriate. i have created an account robatkinson on OSGeo Rob On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Adrian Custer acus...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Jody, In case

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geoapi-devel] Summary of GeoAPI meeting at OGC

2008-12-04 Thread Rob Atkinson
Of course it will all get fun when we start exercising Features, and in particular Coverages (ISO, not 2d simple coverages) I can confirm I will represent CSIRO on the SWG Rob Atkinson On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Adrian Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Perhaps to clarify things

[Geotools-devel] [jira] Created: (GEOT-2180) GML 3.2 bindings

2008-12-01 Thread Rob Atkinson (JIRA)
GML 3.2 bindings Key: GEOT-2180 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-2180 Project: GeoTools Issue Type: New Feature Components: ext xml-xsd Affects Versions: 2.6-M0 Reporter: Rob Atkinson

Re: [Geotools-devel] MVN snapshots and breaking the whole delta concept

2008-11-24 Thread Rob Atkinson
well, good to know I wasnt going crazy alone... it sounds to me we need a maven guru to work up a solution then we can delegate the application of the solution to the module maintainers. a thought, for poking fun at: If we started with the core of GeoTools, the GeoTools developers would start

Re: [Geotools-devel] app-schema and uDig

2008-11-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: Jody, Rob Atkinson suggested to me that uDig might be able to load DataAccessFactory implementations such as AppSchemaDataAccessFactory via SPI. Do you expect it to support these? We have some units tests such as this that demonstrate the AppSchemaDataAccess

[Geotools-devel] MVN snapshots and breaking the whole delta concept

2008-11-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
Every day we seem to build all modules from scratch - regardless of whether they have changed - which seems to mean you have to either do a full mvn install orust as bad, a full download every day you make a change. In particular, you cant just build a module you care about and then be alerted

Re: [Geotools-devel] GML3.2 refactor

2008-11-19 Thread Rob Atkinson
So you are saying I should look at creating a gml:Name handler while I'm in the core of xsd-gml and have Justin's attention to review it? I will then have to back out the hack from app-schemas Rob On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Atkinson wrote

Re: [Geotools-devel] GML 3.2 bindings

2008-11-18 Thread Rob Atkinson
amount of clutter. So the question is how do we proceed with implementing the new bindings. You said alot of the 3.1 bindings can be reused, which is great. Are there any that can't be reused? -Justin Rob Atkinson wrote: Hi Justin, I did an experiment and hacked xsd-gml3 to use a gml3.2 test

[Geotools-devel] GML 3.2 bindings

2008-11-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi Justin, I did an experiment and hacked xsd-gml3 to use a gml3.2 test case, and it looks like the bindings for gml 3.1.1 are basically re-usable for gml3.2 support. I know we'll need a new binding (gml:identifier, basically a gml:name) it seems that its the tests which are most heavily bound

Re: [Geotools-devel] missing artifact: 2.6 SNAPSHOT in gt-sql-datastore

2008-11-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
database columns intoa geometry object is just a special case of a complex data type. Will address via JIRA as our thinking progresses. Regards Rob Atkinson On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I found a problem building this package: GeoTools\modules\unsupported

Re: [Geotools-devel] epsg-hsql module test failures on trunk

2008-11-11 Thread Rob Atkinson
Thanks guys. mvn worked fine with Java 1.5, Eclipse still not happy with Java 1.5 Compatibility mode, but builds the project allright. I commented the JIRA task, note that the WKT being used in the test is ambiguous, so maybe there is a simple iterator thing lurking somewhere? Rob On Tue, Nov

Re: [Geotools-devel] community-schemas ported to trunk, renamed app-schema

2008-11-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
its community application schemas, and CSIRO Land Water will be using Geoserver application schemas (ideally via trunk) to test the Hydrography theme. Anybody else interested or involved in this please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Atkinson On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Adrian Custer

[Geotools-devel] [jira] Created: (GEOT-2146) Use of HashSet where order is important should be LinkedHashSet

2008-11-10 Thread Rob Atkinson (JIRA)
Components: core main Affects Versions: 2.6-M0 Reporter: Rob Atkinson Assignee: Jody Garnett Attachments: HashSet.patch HashSet does not gaurantee order of iteration, so tests that check an encoded output cannot use HashSet of Features, but must use a LinkedHashSet

[Geotools-devel] epsg-hsql module test failures on trunk

2008-11-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
HI am having difficuly getting geotools trunk epsg-hsql module to pass its test suite, and it may be more obvious to someone what the problem is. I get a few failures: Test set: org.geotools.referencing.factory.epsg.DefaultFactoryTest

Re: [Geotools-devel] New Oracle data store, new jdbc modules

2008-08-28 Thread Rob Atkinson
Fantastic news. I'll look to get the geometryless module into supported status around this - my only blocker at the moment is the lack of the functionality currently wrapped in sql-datastore (under 2.4 ./unsupported/community-schemas/sql-datastore) in JDBC. Gabriel did this work and I extended

[Geotools-devel] [jira] Created: (GEOT-1945) allow a single value of the correct data type to be bound to an array

2008-08-06 Thread Rob Atkinson (JIRA)
: Improvement Components: ext xml-xsd Reporter: Rob Atkinson Assignee: Justin Deoliveira Data types such as gml:DirectPositionType have a DoubleList binding. In the case of single dimensional coordinate systems it is desirable to be able to supply a single value

Re: [Geotools-devel] develop support for marine navigation?

2008-07-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
support in Geotools 2.5 to implement s-57 faithfully - though you may simply extract a simple features level 0 profile (think shapefile or old Geotools DataStore) from the S-57 data model for certain operations and rendering. Regards Rob Atkinson On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Davis Ford [EMAIL

Re: [Geotools-devel] develop support for marine navigation?

2008-07-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
, Davis On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Rob Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, Am not aware of an s-57 support activities, but there is a reasonable prospect that the community-schema support agenda slowly coming to the mainstream will support the upcoming S-100 (a replacement

Re: [Geotools-devel] Some explanations on the current feature performance work

2008-07-07 Thread Rob Atkinson
(GIS) world view. --adrian On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 11:53 +1000, Rob Atkinson wrote: Performance is important, but as IT history shows, its not the fastest software or hardware that wins the race, it the one that best meets people's needs and capacity to use it, and usually this is perception

Re: [Geotools-devel] GeoTools involvement and direction

2008-07-07 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hopefully I'm not speaking out of school here, but to remind one and all of the position previously, CSIRO is engaged in a project to bring eResearch infrastructure to a community of practice, and is funded to support this for a three year period. We expect to have one or two developers, but at

Re: [Geotools-devel] Some explanations on the current feature performance work

2008-07-03 Thread Rob Atkinson
Performance is important, but as IT history shows, its not the fastest software or hardware that wins the race, it the one that best meets people's needs and capacity to use it, and usually this is perception based - will I get sacked or promoted for using it? GIS paradigms are fundamentally

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geoserver-devel] accessing database tables

2008-06-29 Thread Rob Atkinson
for you. The vast majority of geo-referenced business data is in multiple tables with point locations, or references to named features. Geometryless was designed to enable the former. Getting SQL-datastore extensions into the core would enable them all. Regards Rob Atkinson On Sat, Jun 28, 2008

Re: [Geotools-devel] GeoTools 3: when?

2008-06-29 Thread Rob Atkinson
a deployable tool. Until we get a chance to play with this, we probably wont have too much useful insight into GeoTools 3.0, but we may be worth considering when requirements and resources are being sought. Rob Atkinson On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Jody Garnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin

Re: [Geotools-devel] Changing IRC meeting time?

2008-06-25 Thread Rob Atkinson
I (in Australia) had to bow out when it became a 5am meeting (3am in Perth) ! 7am was theoretically possible in summer, but I found I was on the road virtually all summer -literally travelling every week but about 3, and when I was at home family breakfasts came higher priority as the result.

Re: [Geotools-devel] coverage build failure on trunk

2008-06-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
I can no longer build this without JAI ( i could a while back). I though we'd established that we didnt need native JAI? Rob A [INFO] Surefire report directory: C:\repos\geotools\trunk\modules\library\covera ge\target\surefire-reports --- T

Re: [Geotools-devel] coverage build failure on trunk

2008-06-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
(StereographicUSGS.java:175) at org.geotools.referencing.operation.projection.ObliqueStereographic.inverseTransformNormalized(ObliqueStereographic.java:180) RA On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Jody Garnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Atkinson wrote: I can no longer build this without JAI ( i could a while

Re: [Geotools-devel] XSQNameBindingTest Failure

2008-06-16 Thread Rob Atkinson
I too had the problem on geotools 2.4, not on trunk. (Using Java 1.5) Its in a hardcoded unit test, so the developer has no way of sorting anything - it simply needs to pass reliably :-0 what is the officieal position on what versions of java work for 2.4? Is it limited to 1.4 still? RA On

Re: [Geotools-devel] recent change to XSQNameBinding

2008-06-01 Thread Rob Atkinson
so whats the status of this: the test fails and has broken the build at the moment : for me and everyone? if there is a fix planned, when and who ? can we expedite this by having a go and submitting a patch? Rob On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Justin Deoliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [Geotools-devel] Test failures

2008-05-25 Thread Rob Atkinson
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Jody Garnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob; you did not install your JDK with international lanaguage support; I keep fixing this error to not be fatal but it always seems to get people. hmm - i never made a choice _not_ to install language support. And it

[Geotools-devel] Test failures

2008-05-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
after repeated svn, mvn -u clean, remove and re-checkout I get some consistent failures building gt2.4 shapefile test fails with: --- Test set: org.geotools.data.shapefile.ShapefileDataStoreTest

Re: [Geotools-devel] GeoTools Jira data-complex

2008-05-04 Thread Rob Atkinson
Its not very appropriate... yes we need to support complex types, but its really all about the stability of the contract between service and client. Surely the JIRA should match the packaging in the code? Rob a On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Geotools-devel] nominating Ben Caradoc-Davies for commit rights

2008-02-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
edges off the process. Regards Rob Atkinson Interoperability Architect CSIRO, Australia - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go

Re: [Geotools-devel] final call to evaluate approaches in actual code

2008-02-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
It would be nice if we could migrate current Feature to SimpleFeature, but maybe the best alternative is to call the new model something that reflects the point - GeneralFeature, FlexibleFeature, CompleteFeature, FullFeature, GenericFeature, etc I dont know enough to choose between the

[Geotools-devel] Encoding attributes question

2008-02-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi, (mainly justin I expect) in xml-xsd, the Encoder class, when encoding a feature the following method gets called: encode( Object object, QName name, ContentHandler handler) which I've followed in eclipse debugger to and for the case of the gml:id of the feature, executor.getChildObject()

Re: [Geotools-devel] ISO 19125 Simple Features include their boundaries

2008-01-28 Thread Rob Atkinson
I'm not aware of anyone raising this issue, and cannot comment on it from personal knowledge. I'll try to dig a little deeper and see what the provenance of the 19125 spec is, but I'd think that the starting point would be the OGC contact (is this Chris?). OGC has a liaison with ISO TC211, but

Re: [Geotools-devel] schema '.xsd' file to FeatureType

2007-12-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
FYI we used gt-xml extensively to create feature types from community schemas - i.e. schemas that form part of an interoperability contract with a user. These tend not to be as simple as making up a single namespace and spitting out your column names :-) But they are potentially useful to a

Re: [Geotools-devel] trap on Attribute validation

2007-11-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
Surely the problem is that length is not a meaningful restriction on a floating point number... no amount of logic can resolve an inconsistency in your starting assumptions, maybe you need to validate the validation rules first! RA On Nov 23, 2007 2:56 AM, Gabriel Roldán [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Geotools-devel] method added to CRS

2007-11-18 Thread Rob Atkinson
wouldnt getCode(authority:URN) be more flexible, and potentially allow future plugin of authority handling. there is nothing fundamentally special about EPSG from a programmatic sense. RA On Nov 19, 2007 10:32 AM, Justin Deoliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, A while back i asked for

Re: [Geotools-devel] GML V3

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Atkinson
Actually, GML2 could handle complex features just fine, just the implementations were all built around simple features. GML3 modularised GML, and then added a whole bunch of modules. And it changed a few things fromt the release: GML Version 3.1.0 adds new geometries, is more compliant with the

Re: [Geotools-devel] Revisiting the DataObject Idea

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Atkinson
This gets to an issue thats been bothering me for some time - the separation of concerns with geotools. Generally speaking, there are some operations that require a trivial view of business data, such as rendering to a map, and others that require manipulation of the data, and others that require

Re: [Geotools-devel] Content management: JCR and JAXR

2007-11-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
Adrian custer wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to isolate certain object types when adding them to content management systems (repositories) so their actual storage can be determined. Is the ebRIM profile for GIS going to isolate the big geospatial data to let it be stored in a

Re: [Geotools-devel] Catalogue question

2007-11-04 Thread Rob Atkinson
to see how the UN SDI and INSPIRE activities, with these governance issues in the frame, evolve over time. Rob Atkinson Adrian Custer wrote: Hey all, I'm slogging through the various catalog specs: it's all hard going for little return so far (I'm in the abstract levels still). One question

Re: [Geotools-devel] Handling non-daylight-savings shift and meeting time

2007-11-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
1 hour later would be great for me too. On 11/3/07, Simone Giannecchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, for me moving the meeting one hour later would dbe much better. Ciao, Simone. On Nov 1, 2007 6:31 PM, Martin Desruisseaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrea Aime a écrit : this

Re: [Geotools-devel] Do we need a PMC list?

2007-10-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
I think it would be a good thing, provided it was something that non PMC members could see the discussion. Rob A On 10/16/07, Jody Garnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had a request (from seven) to set up a PMC email list; there are a couple good reasons to do this... - we sometimes loose

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geoserver-devel] Building the complex-features branch

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
Observations and Measurements, SensorML and SensorWebEnablement (SWE) schems from the OGC. Please advise if you need more info at this stage. Sorry I wasdnt watching gt-users - probably wont do this until the modules are reayd for supported status. Regards Rob Atkinson Andrea Aime wrote

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Geoserver-devel] More issues with date/time data types

2007-10-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
Justin's solution seems the most elegant - i.e. this is simply an encoding issue at both the source and XML output end. The other option we have in the community-schemas stuff is to bind a node to a specfic data type, which is something we will _always_ need to do where schemas use generic types

Re: [Geotools-devel] [OSGeo-Standards] [Fwd: ImageIO MetaData]

2007-09-08 Thread Rob Atkinson
Guys, feeling your pain... One place where ISO models (not the text specifications) can be accessed is via the HollowWorld ISO data modelling framework at https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/twiki/bin/view/AppSchemas/HollowWorld (requires the Enterprise Architect viewer - see links on site, or

Re: [Geotools-devel] On handling multiplicity, why AttributeDescriptor exists

2007-09-08 Thread Rob Atkinson
On the Xpath front... fully implementing xpath seems an unecessary burden, but partial implementation has its issues. The OGC allows xpath in the Filter specification, stating In order to handle property references in a consistent manner, a filter expression processor must use the subset of

[Geotools-devel] OASIS catalogs (was GML2)

2007-08-31 Thread Rob Atkinson
I'm actually knee deep in this stuff right now (geoserver's reference to schemas) so I can try to keep track of fixing this in the geoserver-trunk codebase. Hey Saul, ( Justin) have been working on aspects of this stuff too, since we access cached copies of schemas in order to derive a

Re: [Geotools-devel] problems with coordinate system flipping

2007-08-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
ahh - this is serius issue in the specifications front... I think the behaviour is correct. The OGC specifies that the urn: referenced coordinate systems should always be interpreted as Lon/lat order, in conformance to the EPSG definition - though they dont also specify that it should be in

Re: [Geotools-devel] problems with coordinate system flipping

2007-08-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
Rob Atkinson wrote: ahh - this is serius issue in the specifications front... I think the behaviour is correct. The OGC specifies that the urn: referenced coordinate systems should always be interpreted as Lon/lat order, oops - i meant lat/lon - getting tripped up myself... in conformance

Re: [Geotools-devel] AbstractJDBCDataStore and its pilot implementation for Oracle Spatial

2007-08-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
I had a goal to implement datastore for Oracle Spatial based on GeoTools architecture and interfaces to be used for direct access to Oracle database from UDIG. GeoTools' standard implementation is very narrow and not appropriate for high customization - I mean customization for data model being

Re: [Geotools-devel] AbstractJDBCDataStore and its pilot implementation for Oracle Spatial

2007-08-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
about this at all. Its well accepted that JDBC is in need of a rebuild, I am keen to see we have a complete set of requirements understood before the redesign. Rob Vitali Diatchkov wrote: -Original Message- From: Rob Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:07

Re: [Geotools-devel] AbstractJDBCDataStore and its pilot implementation for Oracle Spatial

2007-08-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
Cool, just a few last comments, confirming your analysis. What I see here. Hibernate do not know a priori about how to bind hierarchy of objects to relational model. We should configure it (through XML or annotations) and charge the framework with such configuration. Is complex feature type a

[Geotools-devel] XSD module

2007-08-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi Justin, am having some difficulty getting gtxml to parse a schema, - it fails to find included schemas deep in the schema nesting. The file is there, and the schema validates OK. the message is [geotools.xml] - Could not resolve schema location: temporalAggregates.xsd to physical

Re: [Geotools-devel] Coverage metadata model, WAS: Raster Catalog and config system

2007-08-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
* The only thing new in coverageio and coverageio-netcdf unsupported modules at this time is the XML schema for geographic metadata in rasters, in the spirit of GML in JPEG 2000 OGC specification. There is no new Java API at this time. There is a bunch of support classes for

Re: [Geotools-devel] Coverage metadata model

2007-08-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
Thanks Martin, excellent explanation. I'm very comfortable with what you propose - and I hope this explanation makes it clearer for everyone - I suspect not many would have had the time or motivation to try to see basic the implications. If my understanding is right, you are proposing a

Re: [Geotools-devel] Keeping uDig temporarily on Geotools 2.4

2007-07-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
Cutting branches to support bug fixes from a stable place makes sense. Adding new functionality from this point is more problematic - the overhead of testing stuff against a branch and the trunk is high, and having the trunk orphaned again is a recipe for frustration and delay. My own

Re: [Geotools-devel] Status of GEOT-1191 - trunk to GeoAPI FM?

2007-07-29 Thread Rob Atkinson
on http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Data+Access+API+for+ISO+Coverage+and+ISO+Feature ? with regards to this task? What is the overlap between the planned work and the gt2-fm module created - are you planning to use this or re-implement something equivalent? Rob Atkinson !DSPAM

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