Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-30 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Hello Ben Thanks you very much for your reply. There is some notes in-line, followed by a request to the OSGeo board and a modification of our request to the GeoTools PMC. Le 30/07/12 08:00, Ben Caradoc-Davies a écrit : > although I am a member of the PMC, I am now writing as an individual: >

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-29 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 27/07/12 07:31, Martin Desruisseaux wrote: > Le 27/07/12 00:46, Frank Warmerdam a écrit : >> "The Foundation hereby grants the Contributor the non­exclusive, >> perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty­free, >> license to use, copy, prepare derivative works of, publicly display or >> perform,

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-29 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 27/07/12 07:17, Martin Desruisseaux wrote: > There is the summary posted on the geotools-devel mailing list: > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29578915 > I don't know if there is an IRC summary however... Martin, this was a voice teleconference conducted on Skype, not an

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-27 Thread Jody Garnett
For the code in question we are responsible as a subcommittee to get things done. Any significant change beyond day to day operation we send to the board for approval ( like any other committee ). I am sorry I was not able to make Monday's meeting but we did get discussion going. -- Jody Garnett

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Jody My previous email was a question to the OSGeo board about the interpretation of a particular paragraph of the copyright agreement, as pointed by Frank. We understand that GeoTools has its own schedule, consequently we didn't asked any decision about the 5% of "core" code that we didn't wr

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Le 27/07/12 16:24, Jody Garnett a écrit : > Currently i am spending more of my volunteer time writing email with > you then helping you at the moment. Just for clarification: this phrase may give the impression that we are having extensive private email exchange, which is not the case. Marti

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-27 Thread Jody Garnett
Martin the geotools meeting did not result in a vote; or any course of action. We have a decision making process to follow, which starts with assembling enough information to know what we are talking about. I am afraid I was otherwise booked with the OSGeo incubation meeting and could not attend

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-27 Thread Jody Garnett
Martin the geotools project which you approached earlier has not had a chance to look into your request yet with any degree of care. As an example we had not gotten around to checking the code contribution agreement yet. The community process takes time, I was unable to attend the meeting ( due to

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Hello all I would like to know the board position on the interpretation below. Are contributors who granted their copyright to OSGeo allowed to re-license their own work to an other open source license? We have no problem in waiting for the conclusion of OSGeo debate about the work done by othe

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-26 Thread Jody Garnett
On Friday, 27 July 2012 at 8:46 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > The GeoTools PSC is still the duely constituted representative of the project > as far as I know. > Indeed the GeoTools PSC is functioning well in this capacity. As "GeoTools Project Officer" please feel free to contact me if you woul

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-26 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Le 27/07/12 01:31, Martin Desruisseaux a écrit : > We were unsure about this interpretation, and thus asked to the board. > We have always been told in the past to ask to the GeoTools PMC. Just for clarification: I'm really not pointing to anyone since we have been told that by many different pe

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-26 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Hello Frank Le 27/07/12 00:46, Frank Warmerdam a écrit : > "The Foundation hereby grants the Contributor the non­exclusive, > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty­free, > license to use, copy, prepare derivative works of, publicly display or > perform, and distribute the Submission." > > I *

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-26 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Hello Cameron Le 27/07/12 00:37, Cameron Shorter a écrit : I'd be interested to hear who voted from the Geotools PSC, and their reasons for voting as they did. Are you able to point at the IRC logs, or email conversation? Alternatively invite the people with concerns to air their opinions. Th

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-26 Thread Cameron Shorter
Martin, (talking as a non-board member), I'd be interested to hear who voted from the Geotools PSC, and their reasons for voting as they did. Are you able to point at the IRC logs, or email conversation? Alternatively invite the people with concerns to air their opinions. I think this questio

Re: [Geotools-devel] [Board] Asking permission for re-licensing from LGPL to Apache

2012-07-26 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Board As suggested, we posted our request on the GeoTools mailing list (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29572383). The GeoTools PMC had a meeting Monday, which resulted in 2 "inclined yes" votes, 2 "inclined no" votes and one proposal to re-license GeoTools too. We do no