On 07/07/2015 12:31, Graham Temple (gmail) wrote:
Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all. They have computers
and
internet, but why should they pay a charge for something they will never
use, just because they have some equipment (whose primary purpose is not for
accessing
In article 017301d0b8c5$719850a0$54c8f1e0$@gmail.com, Graham Temple
\(gmail\) graham.j.tem...@gmail.com wrote:
RFL and fuel duty fund far more than roads, so none of your general
taxation pays for roads, quite the opposite.
Now look deeper. I don't directly pay RFL or FDF because I don't
own
On 07/07/2015 13:40, michael norman wrote:
On 07/07/2015 01:17 PM, Owen Smith wrote:
I have no children so don't use schools, but I still pay for them and
am happy to do so. I regard the BBC as being on the same footing,
everyone in the UK should pay for it.
I think that's called
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:29:44 +, batguano999 wrote:
You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you are
equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
Hmmm
That's a computer license then.
:-)
Too restrictive a description, unless you want to keep the lawyers fat
In article 559ae65c.8040...@gmail.com, michael norman
michaeltnor...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me but how does this help us with the present attitude of our
rulers towards the BBC. All I said was that they are ideologically
opposed to public service, thats not a conspiracy theory its what they
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 15:52:02 +0100, Graham Temple \(gmail\) wrote:
TV should not be funded by a licence fee, but by direct grant from the
government, funded by general taxation.
Good grief we then effectively have a state controlled broadcaster. Is that
what you really want? The licence may
To: Dave Liquorice
Subject: RE: Paywall for iPlayer?
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 15:52:02 +0100, Graham Temple \(gmail\) wrote:
TV should not be funded by a licence fee, but by direct grant from the
government, funded by general taxation.
Good grief we then effectively have a state controlled broadcaster
On 07/07/2015 04:08 PM, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 15:52:02 +0100, Graham Temple \(gmail\) wrote:
TV should not be funded by a licence fee, but by direct grant from the
government, funded by general taxation.
Good grief we then effectively have a state controlled broadcaster.
Subject: Re: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:29:44 +, batguano999 wrote:
You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you are
equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
Hmmm
That's a computer license then.
:-)
Too restrictive a description
On 07/07/2015 12:31 PM, Graham Temple (gmail) wrote:
Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all. There are some,
believe it or not - my parents for instance. They have computers and
internet, but why should they pay a charge for something they will never
use, just because they
On 07/07/2015 01:17 PM, Owen Smith wrote:
I have no children so don't use schools, but I still pay for them and am happy
to do so. I regard the BBC as being on the same footing, everyone in the UK
should pay for it.
I think that's called civilization and society.
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:06:38 +0100, michael norman wrote:
Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all. There are
some, believe it or not - my parents for instance. They have computers
and internet, but why should they pay a charge for something they will
never use,
That is
a year to your road fund licence and do away with the congestion charges and
tolls.
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Of Dave Liquorice
Sent: 07 July 2015 09:06
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Re: Paywall
On 07/07/2015 01:39 PM, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:06:38 +0100, michael norman wrote:
Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all. There are
some, believe it or not - my parents for instance. They have computers
and internet, but why should they pay a charge
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:29:44 +, batguano999 wrote:
You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you are
equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
Hmmm That's a computer license
from
general taxation not a licence fee. Problem solved.
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From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Jim web
Sent: 07 July 2015 13:03
To: 'Dave Liquorice'; get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
In article
a schools tax,
fuel duty and RFL pay for far more than roads etc, etc.
GT
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From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of
Owen Smith
Sent: 07 July 2015 13:18
To: get_iplayer
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
I have no children so don't use
On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 12:31:39PM +0100, Graham Temple (gmail) wrote:
Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all. There are some,
believe it or not - my parents for instance. They have computers and
internet, but why should they pay a charge for something they will never
use,
. We don't have a schools tax,
fuel duty and RFL pay for far more than roads etc, etc.
GT
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From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Owen Smith
Sent: 07 July 2015 13:18
To: get_iplayer
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
I
Some more analysis:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7034-will-budget-result-in-having-to-pay-for-bbc-iplayer.html
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In article
CANGN4UPV=DTYdAwn=_crsnpakuqf+z6lfb87yjk69qywby-...@mail.gmail.com,
Shevek she...@shevek.co.uk wrote:
Some more analysis:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7034-will-budget-result-in-having-to-pay-for-bbc-iplayer.html
Personally, I'm happy to pay for iplayer access. Although I'd
On 07/06/2015 12:08 PM, Jim web wrote:
In article
CANGN4UPV=DTYdAwn=_crsnpakuqf+z6lfb87yjk69qywby-...@mail.gmail.com,
Shevek she...@shevek.co.uk wrote:
Some more analysis:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7034-will-budget-result-in-having-to-pay-for-bbc-iplayer.html
Personally, I'm
On 06 July 2015 at 20:42 Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote:
You think the BBC is left wing. I happen to think they have a right
wing bias. That's the problem for a broadcaster trying to do real
news, whichever government is in power will hate the BBC for pointing
out various things
Rather than promote conspiracy theories about non doms and media owners.
direct your ire at the one eyed Scotch loon and his party who bribed
electors with taxpayers' money.
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Oh dear this is really getting OT
But just asking who the one eyed
On 07/06/2015 09:13 PM, TQ wrote:
On 06 July 2015 at 21:04 michael norman michaeltnor...@gmail.com
wrote:
Rather than promote conspiracy theories about non doms and media
owners.
direct your ire at the one eyed Scotch loon and his party who bribed
electors with taxpayers' money.
On 07/06/2015 09:47 PM, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
Can we please keep party politics off the list? I could quite happily
bore everyone senseless with my political rants but I'm sure you
wouldn't want that!
Alan
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On 06 July 2015 at 21:04 michael norman michaeltnor...@gmail.com
wrote:
Rather than promote conspiracy theories about non doms and media
owners.
direct your ire at the one eyed Scotch loon and his party who bribed
electors with taxpayers' money.
On 6 Jul 2015 at 20:18, Nic Siddle Nic Siddle nicsid...@gmail.com wrote:
and isn't it odd that the supposed savings to the government of the
proposed requirement of the BBC to fund licences for the over 75's just
happens to be the cost of a single licence multiplied by the number of
over
On 06 July 2015 at 21:29 batguano999 batguano...@zoho.com wrote:
You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you are
equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
Hmmm
That's a computer license then.
:-)
From the ministry of housinge?
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Can we please keep party politics off the list? I could quite happily
bore everyone senseless with my political rants but I'm sure you
wouldn't want that!
Alan
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You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you are
equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
Hmmm
That's a computer license then.
:-)
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On 06/07/2015 13:20, michael norman wrote:
On 07/06/2015 12:08 PM, Jim web wrote:
In article
CANGN4UPV=DTYdAwn=_crsnpakuqf+z6lfb87yjk69qywby-...@mail.gmail.com,
Shevek she...@shevek.co.uk wrote:
Some more analysis:
Mike
Some real anti-BBC comments being posted on the forums. While I think
the BBC can be pretty arrogant as an organisation (for example when
dealing with complaints) I'm a great supporter of PBS broadcasting and I
think the range and quality of programmes produced by the Corporation is
equally I would be against any move to make any of the BBC channels to
carry commercials.
I agree, we visited Canada recently and I am amazed anyone watches TV live
there. Basically the channels primarily carry adverts with odd bits of
programmes shown occasionally. It made trying to watch
Try the U.S. for a few years if you want to see what happens to a society when
there is no functioning media. UGH. No real TV, awful radio (NPR is a joke -
so amateur) and no newspapers.
Even their good programmes are dire beyond belief - make C5 seen elitist.
As a BBC 2, BBC 4, Radio 4
and isn't it odd that the supposed savings to the government of the
proposed requirement of the BBC to fund licences for the over 75's just
happens to be the cost of a single licence multiplied by the number of
over 75's? i.e., according to the Government, all over 75s live singly
and
In article 003901d0b80b$66a67380$33f35a80$@eycott.co.uk, George Eycott
geo...@eycott.co.uk wrote:
equally I would be against any move to make any of the BBC channels to
carry commercials.
I agree, we visited Canada recently and I am amazed anyone watches TV
live there. Basically the
be a real shame as I agree much of what
they offer is excellent.
GT
-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of michael norman
Sent: 06 July 2015 18:57
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer
Ultimately the BBC can resolve the issue of licensing: outside of the
UK, 'free' BBC channels are supported by commercials (albeit tasteful,
high income advertisements from governments 'Come on holiday to this
once-third-world country and see how your business can make a good
deal!',
of what
they offer is excellent.
GT
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From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of michael norman
Sent: 06 July 2015 18:57
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
Mike
Some real anti-BBC comments being
In article 559ac160.9010...@gmail.com, michael norman
michaeltnor...@gmail.com wrote:
The crucial point I was trying to make in the context of this list was
and is how does the bbc plug what they perceive as the iPlayer gap. Its
ironic that iPlayer is streets ahead technically of all the other
On 06/07/2015 22:11, michael norman wrote:
On 07/06/2015 09:47 PM, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
Can we please keep party politics off the list? I could quite happily
bore everyone senseless with my political rants but I'm sure you
wouldn't want that!
Alan
On 6 Jul 2015 at 21:34, michael norman michael norman
michaeltnor...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/06/2015 09:13 PM, TQ wrote:
On 06 July 2015 at 21:04 michael norman michaeltnor...@gmail.com
wrote:
Rather than promote conspiracy theories about non doms and media
owners.
Direct your
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