Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please [NO ACTUAL GET_IPLAYER CONTENT]

2013-09-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 13:33 +0100, TQ wrote: > If possible, whilst banging on about the simplest of issues regarding > the operation of mailing lists, would participants be so kind as to add > "[NO ACTUAL GET_IPLAYER CONTENT]" to the subject line, in order that the > posts might reach /dev/null wit

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please [NO ACTUAL GET_IPLAYER CONTENT]

2013-09-01 Thread TQ
If possible, whilst banging on about the simplest of issues regarding the operation of mailing lists, would participants be so kind as to add "[NO ACTUAL GET_IPLAYER CONTENT]" to the subject line, in order that the posts might reach /dev/null with no human intervention? -- "Through the abusive int

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-09-01 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Sun Sep 1 12:20:20 BST 2013, I wrote: but has yet to make any in-existing-thread posts, which was the problem faced to begin with... What I meant to write was: ... but has yet to make any in-existing-thread posts - apart from this thread, ... V.

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-09-01 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Fri Aug 30 14:28:32 BST 2013, I wrote: (this issue was recently discussed in the list, may or may not be particular to this list and may depend on the mail client used...). I'm afraid I'm not an expert in this field, others truely knowledgeable are free to chime in for corrections/additions!

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-09-01 Thread Paul Oldham
On 01/09/13 10:38, Andy Wedge wrote: Is anyone else getting bored with this topic now? Don't worry, I'm sure the list owner will be along shortly to politely remind everyone of the need to keep on topic. -- Paul ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_ip

RE: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-09-01 Thread Andy Wedge
> FWIW, I'm with David all the way. > > R. Is anyone else getting bored with this topic now? A. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

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2013-09-01 Thread Robin Bowes
FWIW, I'm with David all the way. R. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-09-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 01:24 +0100, Rob Dixon wrote: > On 31/08/2013 23:48, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > > As David is the list owner, I think it's reasonable for him to comment > > on list admin matters.. > > You are quite right. I was unaware of David's position as list owner and > wouldn't have

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/08/2013 23:48, Stuart Henderson wrote: As David is the list owner, I think it's reasonable for him to comment on list admin matters.. You are quite right. I was unaware of David's position as list owner and wouldn't have challenged his entitlement to say whatever he wants. My problem is

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 23:26 +0100, Rob Dixon wrote: > On 31/08/2013 22:09, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 20:46 +0100, Rob Dixon wrote: > > > >> I'm sorry David, but I find this very offensive. > > > > Before we continue, I would ask you to watch this video: > > http://www.snotr.c

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread J K.Eason
> And thus you should only get the one copy of this message; the list > shouldn't send you the second? Correct! (I did get two copies from your previous post.) > If that's not true, I have a more complex debugging session coming > my way... :) You can go to bed with a weight off your mind! :

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 00:10 +0100, J K.Eason wrote: > > The address 'j...@jeason.cix.co.uk' is not subscribed to the list; > > you are subscribed with another address. > > > > Thus, the list software doesn't *know* that it's a duplicate. > > Ah that would explain it. Thanks David. I've now chang

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread J K.Eason
> The address 'j...@jeason.cix.co.uk' is not subscribed to the list; > you are subscribed with another address. > > Thus, the list software doesn't *know* that it's a duplicate. Ah that would explain it. Thanks David. I've now changed to the correct email address to match the one that the list k

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 23:51 +0100, J K.Eason wrote: > > That poster might like to investigate the settings on > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/options/get_iplayer - > > specifically "Avoid duplicate copies of messages". > > For what it's worth, I've just looked and 'Avoid duplicate copies of

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread J K.Eason
> That poster might like to investigate the settings on > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/options/get_iplayer - > specifically "Avoid duplicate copies of messages". For what it's worth, I've just looked and 'Avoid duplicate copies of messages?' *is* checked in my settings. Regards John

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread J K.Eason
> Note that one poster above was unhappy that he received a private > copy in addition to that from the list. I wouldn't say that I was particularly unhappy. It's just that it's the first time I've seen a posting replying to one of my posts that was actually sent directly to me *as well* as to th

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/08/2013 22:09, David Woodhouse wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 20:46 +0100, Rob Dixon wrote: I'm sorry David, but I find this very offensive. Before we continue, I would ask you to watch this video: http://www.snotr.com/video/8285/Steve_Hughes_-_Offended Watch it from 3:20 to 5:45. Before

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013/08/31 21:50, Colin Law wrote: > Note that one poster above was unhappy that he received a private copy > in addition to that from the list. That poster might like to investigate the settings on http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/options/get_iplayer - specifically "Avoid duplicate copies of

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 21:50 +0100, Colin Law wrote: > I don't think it is odd, again on most of the lists I subscribe to > posters prefer not to get two copies, so Reply is the right thing to > do. Have you actually read through the reply-to-list page that I have posted a number of times now? I ta

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 20:46 +0100, Rob Dixon wrote: > On 30/08/2013 23:10, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 13:59 +0100, Mable Syrup wrote: > > > >> I'm sure there must be something, but I can't find it. I want to > >> reply to different items in a thread in a manner that preserve

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Colin Law
On 31 August 2013 21:50, Colin Law wrote: > Whatever the rights and wrongs of how a list /should/ be setup the > fact is that many users think of a post as having come from the list, > not from an individual, and hence expect Reply to go to the list. The > proof of this is the number of times po

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Colin Law
On 31 August 2013 21:34, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 20:25 +0100, Colin Law wrote: > ... >> With gmail unfortunately there is no Reply to List, so I have to use >> Reply to All, and then try and remember to manually remove the one to >> the sender, though I am never sure whether

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 20:25 +0100, Colin Law wrote: > On 31 August 2013 12:33, J K.Eason wrote: > >> Sorry, was using 'reply all' - will stop that now - thanks for > >> pointing it out Argh, no! Using 'reply all' is exactly the *right* thing to do. Except in odd circumstances, you *should* be i

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 30/08/2013 23:10, David Woodhouse wrote: On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 13:59 +0100, Mable Syrup wrote: I'm sure there must be something, but I can't find it. I want to reply to different items in a thread in a manner that preserves the threading. I don't really understand why this is an issue. I

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Colin Law
On 31 August 2013 12:33, J K.Eason wrote: >> Sorry, was using 'reply all' - will stop that now - thanks for >> pointing it out > > No problem. That one was ok! :^) With gmail unfortunately there is no Reply to List, so I have to use Reply to All, and then try and remember to manually remove the

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread J K.Eason
> Sorry, was using 'reply all' - will stop that now - thanks for > pointing it out No problem. That one was ok! :^) Regards John ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_ipla

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Andrew Moore
"..and I got your reply twice because you're replying both to me *and* to the list. You should normally only need to reply to the list." Sorry, was using 'reply all' - will stop that now - thanks for pointing it out ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread J K.Eason
> Thanks John, Windows Live Mail is the only one converting the text > to attachments, yet your message arrived as a 'regular' text email > with no attachments on the same machine :-S > No biggie, it was just a 'nay' vote for attachments That's because my message was sent as plain text (as I d

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Andrew Moore
"I think that depends on your mail client. For instance, if I read David's messages in Windows Mail under Vista on my laptop I see exactly the same as you with the message content in an attachment, but using my normal proprietary mail program his message is displayed correctly." Thanks John, Wi

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread J K.Eason
> Some of these posts come to me as attachments instead of text _ is > that a new thing? > dwmw2_s last post arrived as ATT00159.txt along with smime.p7s and > no legible text was in the 'message' itself I think that depends on your mail client. For instance, if I read David's messages in Wind

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Andrew Moore
And did you really just send that question *three* times? Once as HTML, which the list will have rejected but I got my copy. A second time to me *only*, and a *third* attempt which actually did the right thing? Personally, I usually give up after after the *second* consecutive failure to send an

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 11:38 +0100, Andrew Moore wrote: > Some of these posts come to me as attachments instead of text – is > that a new thing? No, that's just a bug in your mail client. > dwmw2’s last post arrived as ATT00159.txt along with smime.p7s and no > legible text was in the 'message' it

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Andrew Moore
Some of these posts come to me as attachments instead of text – is that a new thing? dwmw2’s last post arrived as ATT00159.txt along with smime.p7s and no legible text was in the 'message' itself ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 10:35 +0100, Mable Syrup wrote: > The issue was that I was only getting digests to cut down on traffic, Ah, right. Yeah, the digests are a stupid concept, and make it fairly much impossible to do the right thing. I keep meaning to disable them entirely. Also, please make su

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-31 Thread Mable Syrup
Woodhouse To: Mable Syrup Cc: "get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org" Sent: Friday, 30 August 2013, 23:10 Subject: Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ... On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 13:59 +0100, Mable Syrup wrote: > I'm sure there must be something, but I can'

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-30 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 13:59 +0100, Mable Syrup wrote: > I'm sure there must be something, but I can't find it. I want to > reply to different items in a thread in a manner that preserves the > threading. I don't really understand why this is an issue. It's all really really simple: Every mail m

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-30 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 23:23 +0100, Roger Bell_West wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:10:56PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > >Did I miss anything? > > That a standards-compliant modern MUA will also have a reply-to-list > function, which acts on the RFC2369 headers to direct a reply intended > f

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-30 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:10:56PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: >Did I miss anything? That a standards-compliant modern MUA will also have a reply-to-list function, which acts on the RFC2369 headers to direct a reply intended forthe list to the right address.

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-30 Thread Rob Dixon
On 30/08/2013 13:59, Mable Syrup wrote: I'm sure there must be something, but I can't find it. I want to reply to different items in a thread in a manner that preserves the threading. The correct thing to do depends on the mail client you are using. I see you are on the Yahoo Mail Web Servic

Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-30 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Fri Aug 30 13:59:51 BST 2013, Mable Syrup wrote: I want to reply to different items in a thread in a manner that preserves the threading. Hi again Mable Syrup! I was also having this issue (due to pure infamiliarity with mailing lists) back when I started posting here, please read this fro

can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-30 Thread Mable Syrup
I'm sure there must be something, but I can't find it.   I want to reply to different items in a thread in a manner that preserves the threading. Ta. Mable ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/