Re: Reinstallable - base

2023-10-20 Thread Howard B. Golden
Perhaps there may be useful ideas in https://draugus.github.io/pdf/Software%20Design%20for%20Flexibility%20-%20Chris%20Hanson.pdf . Howard > On Oct 20, 2023, at 1:23 PM, Ben Gamari wrote: > > Ben Gamari writes: > >> ... >> >> # Phase 2: Template Haskell >> >> The above story is made

Re: Reinstallable - base

2023-10-20 Thread Howard B. Golden
Cut the Gordian Knot by serializing all the interfaces. This may be a good first step. Howard > On Oct 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Gamari wrote: > > Ben Gamari writes: > >> Simon Peyton Jones writes: >> >>> Dear GHC devs >>> >>> Given the now-agreed split between ghc-internal and base

Re: Reinstallable - base

2023-10-17 Thread Howard B. Golden
My _very_ naive question is whether Template Haskell should have all the features of the latest language? Perhaps it could instead be limited to a simpler subset so that it could become a bolt-on to the rest of the compiler and it could be compiled and implemented independently using an older

Re: Deprecating Safe Haskell, or heavily investing in it?

2022-12-27 Thread howard . b . golden
I hope that some effort can be expended to specifically identify what changes would be necessary to make Safe Haskell work consistent with its name. Only then can a reasoned decision about how to proceed be made. Also, rejecting the status quo implies that making a decision is a high priority. Is

Re: Configuration documentation (Was Re: GitLab is down: urgent)

2021-03-19 Thread howard . b . golden
I suggest continuing this discussion/effort on the Haskell Discourse at https://discourse.haskell.org/t/documentation-of-haskell-websites-servers-and-their-configurations/2153 . Howard On Fri, 2021-03-19 at 14:21 -0400, Gershom B wrote: > Cc: ad...@haskell.org which remains (since it was set

Configuration documentation (Was Re: GitLab is down: urgent)

2021-03-19 Thread howard . b . golden
Hi Richard, Gershom and Ben, I have access to the server that runs the Haskell wiki. There are other websites on that server as well. I can document them as well. I know that Gershom B. has done most (all?) of the work on that server. I ask him and the haskell.org committee to send me or point me

Re: GitLab is down: urgent

2021-03-19 Thread howard . b . golden
Hi Ben, Richard and Davean, I would like to help however I can. I already maintain the Haskell wiki, and I would like to improve and document its configuration using devops techniques, preferably consistent with gitlab.haskell.org. Regards, Howard On Fri, 2021-03-19 at 12:14 -0400, davean

Re: Landing Backpack in HEAD

2016-08-11 Thread Howard B. Golden via ghc-devs
Hi, I created a stub Backpack entry in the Haskell wiki using the abstract of the paper. Howard ___ ghc-devs mailing list ghc-devs@haskell.org http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs

Re: Why upper bound version numbers?

2016-06-09 Thread Howard B. Golden
On June 9, 2016 10:43:00 -0700 David Fox wrote: ​> It seems to me that if you have any thought at all for your library's > clients the chances of this happening are pretty insignificant. Sadly (IMO), this happens all too frequently. Upward compatibility suffers because most package authors are

Suggestions for improving the PVP. Was Re: Why upper bound version numbers?

2016-06-07 Thread Howard B. Golden
On Monday, June 6, 2016 23:15:00 -0700, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: > Unfortunately, GHC's `base` package has a *huge* API surface. So with> each > GHC release we're usually forced to perform a major version bump to > satisfy the PVP, even if just a tiny part only very few packages use of >

Re: MonadFail decisions

2015-10-16 Thread Howard B. Golden
On Friday, October 16, 2015 9:22 AM, Edward Kmett wrote: > It sounds like we'll need to delay the warnings themselves until around 8.4. I propose an optional generic flag -fearly-warning (pun slightly intended) to get _all_ warnings of planned changes. Howard

Re: RFC: Native -XCPP Proposal

2015-05-06 Thread Howard B. Golden
At the risk of antagonizing some (most? all?) of you, how about... -XCPP stands for the native CPP -XGNUCPP stands for GNU's GCC CPP -XClangCPP stands for Clang's CPP -XCPPHS stands for CPPHS ... with the hope that TH is the future? Howard ___

Re: [Haskell] Haskell on Windows instructions - is MinGHC version update needed?

2015-04-15 Thread Howard B. Golden
Cc: GHC Fwding to the GHC Windows Task force, who will doubtless know what to do. Simon | -Original Message- | From: Haskell [mailto:haskell-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of Howard B. | Golden | Sent: 15 April 2015 17:51 | To: hask...@haskell.org | Subject: [Haskell] Haskell on Windows

Re: wither the Platform

2015-03-25 Thread Howard B. Golden
In general, I think Mark's proposals are the way to go. However, I know that there are many developers who will chafe under this plan. There is an inherent tension between latest and greatest and batteries included. While I understand the concerns of those who are on the bleeding edge, I

Re: cminusminus.org does not have a link to the spec

2015-01-19 Thread Howard B. Golden
Hi Sergei, See http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~nr/c--/extern/man2.ps Google is your friend! Howard ___ ghc-devs mailing list ghc-devs@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs

Fw: Long term support - in general and Windows XP specifically

2014-11-08 Thread Howard B. Golden
Hi, I am combining the two topics because the issues are both support-related. First, long term support (LTS) is an important goal in making GHC/Haskell a viable production platform. I would argue that providing it is a necessary condition to encourage more adoption of Haskell by plain users

Re: Suggestion for GHC System User's Guide documentation change

2014-08-22 Thread Howard B. Golden
p.k.f., I like your less verbose suggestion better than my original. I don't understand your comment about code examples: Are you supporting or opposing the inclusion of the LANGUAGE pragmas in the examples? Howard From: p.k.f.holzensp...@utwente.nl

Re: Proposal: require Haddock comment for every new top-level function and type in GHC source code

2014-06-27 Thread Howard B. Golden
I don't think this is mutually exclusive with Johan's proposal. Let me suggest an amendment: Developers (both new and old) would be encouraged to submit patches adding or improving documentation in the source code. Documentation patches would be vetted as any others would be. Discouraging

Adding Doxygen (or other documentation tool) comments to GHC patches?

2014-04-24 Thread Howard B. Golden
Hi, I am working on a patch for GHC Trac ticket #9021. I wonder whether it would be welcome or unwelcome to include Doxygen (or other documentation tool) comments in the patch? If another tool is preferred, please recommend it. Thanks. Howard B. Golden Northridge, CA

Coverity CID 43168

2014-04-22 Thread Howard B. Golden
of the POSIX dlopen error isn't fully specified, so I'm unsure of whether I need to fix this or not. Howard B. Golden Northridge, CA, USA ___ ghc-devs mailing list ghc-devs@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/ghc-devs

Idea for improving communication between devs and potential devs

2014-01-03 Thread Howard B. Golden
than what HCAR does for GHC now, though I don't expect anyone can do it weekly. Please let me know what you think about this idea. I'm open to any suggestions for improving it also. Howard B. Golden Northridge, CA, USA ___ ghc-devs mailing list ghc

Re: Idea for improving communication between devs and potential devs

2014-01-03 Thread Howard B. Golden
Chris, Thanks for the pointer to HWN. I wasn't aware of it before. I can certainly send things to the author which may be of interest to readers. In addition I like incorporating the updates into the GHC Devs wiki to make it easier to find them that way. We each have our preferred way of

Re: Idea for improving communication between devs and potential devs

2014-01-03 Thread Howard B. Golden
as wiki entries, rather than a blog, so it can have both a topical and chronological access path, but I am open to the blog approach as well if others will write content too. Howard - Original Message - From: Herbert Valerio Riedel hvrie...@gmail.com To: Howard B. Golden howard_b_gol