On Wed, 19 May 2021, Ben Gamari wrote:
Hi all,
As you may have heard the Freenode IRC network, long the home of #ghc
and several other prominent Haskell channels, appears to be in the
middle of a rather nasty hostile takeover [1,2,3,4]. As a consequence,
it seems it will be necessary to migrate the #ghc community elsewhere.
[…]
Consequently, I think it would be wise to expand our search space to
include other FOSS platforms. At the moment, I can see the following
options:
1. Remain on IRC and move to Liberachat, the spiritual successor of
Freenode
2. Remain on IRC and move to OFTC, another widely used network
3. Move to [Matrix]
4. Move to [Zulip]
My sense is that of the non-IRC options Matrix is the truest successor
to IRC, being a federated protocol with a wide array of (if somewhat
immature) clients. I know some of our contributors already use it and in
principle one could configure an IRC-to-Matrix bridge for those existing
contributors who would rather continue using IRC.
Zulip, while also being FOSS, is far more centralized than Matrix and
appears to be more of a chat web application than an open protocol.
Do you know of any other options? Thoughts?
Ben,
Thanks for starting this conversation. I don't have much standing here as
up until now, I've only been an observer, but I did notice one option
missing from the list, and that's an XMPP [0] MUC (multi-user chat, a
chatroom). Like Matrix, it is also federated and has many client and
(unlike Matrix) many server implementations. I also noticed that the
cheogram folks are offering to host free and open source projects [1].
[0] https://xmpp.org/2021/01/instant-messaging-its-not-about-the-app/
[1] https://cheogram.com/freedomware-muc/
I can't advocate for one path or another. However, I'm still charting my
one way, and am interested in seeing this option evaluated.
A closing thought: it might be nice if #haskell and #ghc end up at the
same place, although that might be difficult if the two groups have
different needs.
Best,
Jack
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