Re: [Gimp-developer] UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Tal Danzig
* Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Federico Mena Quintero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think the bigger problem is that the first thing you see when you > > start up the GÏMP for the first time is a big ugly BRIGHT ORANGE > > window. > > I like it very much, but of cours

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[Gimp-developer] Re: UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Peter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-06-07 at 0312.06 -0400): > > software for free. I had to wait for that dumb little paint shop pro > > program to count past 2000 once. And that "free" thing could not hold a > > candle to Gimp. I purchased PaintShop Pro because I was tired of people sending me files fro

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2001-06-07 Thread Robert L Krawitz
This is gimp-print version 4.1.8, a development release on the 4.1 line. This software includes the Print plug-in for the Gimp, and GhostScript and CUPS drivers. The support for printers in GhostScript and CUPS is identical to the support for these printers in the Print plugin -- they use the id

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Federico Mena Quintero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the bigger problem is that the first thing you see when you > start up the GÏMP for the first time is a big ugly BRIGHT ORANGE > window. I like it very much, but of course I'm a little biased here. > That window, aside from being

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:51:26PM +0200, Branko Collin wrote: > > www.gimp.org mentions the win32 version on the front page. > > After scrolling. And not on the page where you would expect it, on > the download page. Surely, you do not expect a visitor to read the > whole web site before

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
David Monniaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here are a few observations of mine on the UI, following Chris' mom's > observation that Gimp "looks terrible". David, this is a wonderful list. > The installation process is frightening: > > 1. The user is presented with a dialog box "Welcome to GI

[Gimp-developer] Re: Re: GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-06-07 at 1734.35 +0200): > > > Gimp, under Linux at least, saves layout. And you can do tricks, like > > > copying the sessionrc to a safe place, and "reinstall" it before each > > > launch. > > No need for tricks. Simply exit Gimp with your favorite session layout > > and

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Dave Neary
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:51:26PM +0200, Branko Collin wrote: > > www.gimp.org mentions the win32 version on the front page. > > After scrolling. And not on the page where you would expect it, on > the download page. Surely, you do not expect a visitor to read the > whole web site before downl

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Lourens Veen
Sven Neumann wrote: > > Hi, > > "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Gimp, under Linux at least, saves layout. And you can do tricks, like > > copying the sessionrc to a safe place, and "reinstall" it before each > > launch. > > No need for tricks. Simply ex

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI Stuff

2001-06-07 Thread Tino Schwarze
Hi, On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 10:28:04AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > > Additionaly I seriously doubt that it would be possible to make > > The Gimp look more potato shop like by simply giving it another > > 'skin'. > besides of that: it is not and has never been our goal to make gimp > look or f

Re: [Gimp-developer] Dutch

2001-06-07 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 10:20:17AM +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we use gettext at the moment and gettext does not support switching > languages on the fly. Certainly not true for gnu gettext (I used this feature for a long time), and I guess not being able to switch locales a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Gimp, under Linux at least, saves layout. And you can do tricks, like > copying the sessionrc to a safe place, and "reinstall" it before each > launch. No need for tricks. Simply exit Gimp with your favorite session layout

[Gimp-developer] Re: defaults for tile cache, swap, etc. (was Re: UI remarks)

2001-06-07 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-06-07 at 1108.51 +0200): > As I said, the user will still have to adjust the value in order to > get the best results. So the dialog should still be there and should > still tell to change the default value to something that is most > appropriate to their system. But in s

[Gimp-developer] Re: UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-06-07 at 0312.06 -0400): > How about putting one of those little day counters in the gimp start > up? So that the user has to acknowledge how many days s/he has used the > software for free. I had to wait for that dumb little paint shop pro > program to count past 2000 on

[Gimp-developer] Re: GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-06-07 at 0930.45 +1000): > Can GIMP be started with all the windows grouped the way I want? Maybe not. :[ > I run every application full screen and most of the applications open > with the screen the way I left it last time. Some applications let me > save a layout and se

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Branko Collin
On 7 Jun 2001, at 10:37, Sven Neumann wrote: > Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Can GIMP be started with all the windows grouped the way I want? > > [... lots of complains deleted] > > Your problem is basically that your window manager sucks. Well, the Window manager sucks, but I believ

Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.2.1 crashes on indexed colour conversion

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Austin Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Its doing exactly the job its meant to do! Would you rather the code > continued, using some invalid assumption, to either crash bizarrely > later or come out with artifacts in the image? I'd prefer leaving the image untouched so no important d

Re: [Gimp-developer] Dutch

2001-06-07 Thread Branko Collin
On 7 Jun 2001, at 10:20, Sven Neumann wrote: > "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Perhaps it would help (but also be a lot of work) to make it very > > > easy to switch between different languages in the menus, and/or > > > show tooltips with translations to another language. > >

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Branko Collin
On 7 Jun 2001, at 3:12, Carol Spears wrote: > Branko Collin wrote: > > > A user is _never_ an idiot. First, let me take back a lot of what I said. It seems it rubs some people the wrong way, and to others I cannot explain myself clearly enough. I just object to _calling_ users stupid, especi

Re: [Gimp-developer] adding a tool

2001-06-07 Thread Austin Donnelly
On , 7 Jun 2001, Sven Neumann wrote: > Jonas Geduldig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm interested in adding a tool for detecting and > > cutting out contour regions. > > Intelligent Scissors ?! Yup, this sounds a lot like intelligent scissors. Read the comments at the top of app/iscissors.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.2.1 crashes on indexed colour conversion

2001-06-07 Thread Austin Donnelly
On , 6 Jun 2001, Sven Neumann wrote: > Avi Bercovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > As ever I;m not quite sure where I go to post bug reports, so I;m > > posting to the list. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ is the right place. Your bug-report has > been entered into the database and I have fo

Re: [Gimp-developer] defaults for tile cache, swap, etc. (was Re:UI remarks)

2001-06-07 Thread David Monniaux
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Roel Schroeven wrote: > > --- Raphael Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > > > In some cases, IIRC, /tmp is RAM. > This issue comes up from time to time, I've seen it on Ask Slashdot too. > But /tmp in RAM i

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Peter
Sven Neumann wrote: > > Hi, > > Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Can GIMP be started with all the windows grouped the way I want? > > [... lots of complains deleted] > > Your problem is basically that your window manager sucks. If working > on Unix using a decent window manager, you can

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Raphael Quinet
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001, Sven Neumann wrote: > Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Can GIMP be started with all the windows grouped the way I want? >> [... lots of complains deleted] > > Your problem is basically that your window manager sucks. If working > on Unix using a decent window manager

Re: [Gimp-developer] defaults for tile cache, swap, etc. (was Re: UI remarks)

2001-06-07 Thread Roel Schroeven
--- Raphael Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > > In some cases, IIRC, /tmp is RAM. This issue comes up from time to time, I've seen it on Ask Slashdot too. But /tmp in RAM is bad. If you're writing/reading relatively small amou

Re: [Gimp-developer] Helmut Dersch's Panorama Tools

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Superonline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I very urgently need a copy of panorama tools but Helmut Dersch's site is closed so >I can't download it. If you have a copy please could you mail it to me or point me in >the right direction as to where I will find it. > according to this art

Re: [Gimp-developer] defaults for tile cache, swap, etc. (was Re: UI remarks)

2001-06-07 Thread Raphael Quinet
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-06-06 at 1724.41 +0200): >> Here is a suggestion. I doubt that I will implement it, but maybe >> David can do it since he wants to improve the installation process. >> Keep the current dialog as it is (

Re: [Gimp-developer] adding a tool

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Jonas Geduldig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I'm interested in adding a tool for detecting and > cutting out contour regions. Intelligent Scissors ?! > Has this already been done? Is there a doc > explaining how to contribute to Gimp development? Get the source from CVS, read t

Re: [Gimp-developer] adding a tool

2001-06-07 Thread Dave Neary
Jonas Geduldig wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested in adding a tool for detecting and > cutting out contour regions. Is this feasible? > Has this already been done? Is there a doc > explaining how to contribute to Gimp development? > > Thanks, Jonas Hi, The best place to start would be to look

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI comment from an NT user

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can GIMP be started with all the windows grouped the way I want? > [... lots of complains deleted] Your problem is basically that your window manager sucks. If working on Unix using a decent window manager, you can use a separate virtual desktop for Gimp

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI Stuff

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Hans Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Additionaly I seriously doubt that it would be possible to make > The Gimp look more potato shop like by simply giving it another > 'skin'. besides of that: it is not and has never been our goal to make gimp look or feel like potato shop. Actually a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Dutch

2001-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Perhaps it would help (but also be a lot of work) to make it very easy > > to switch between different languages in the menus, and/or show > > tooltips with translations to another language. > > If only one could do the switching from the Pref

[Gimp-developer] Helmut Dersch's Panorama Tools

2001-06-07 Thread Superonline
Marco Hi,   I very urgently need a copy of panorama tools but Helmut Dersch's site is closed so I can't download it. If you have a copy please could you mail it to me or point me in the right direction as to where I will find it.   Yours     Jonathan Bowker BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Bowker;J

Re: [Gimp-developer] UI remarks

2001-06-07 Thread Carol Spears
Branko Collin wrote: > > A user is _never_ an idiot. If you feel that way, you may indeed as > well only develop for yourself. Once you give a copy to a non- > programming friend or neighbour for the first time, however, you have > (IMHO) some moral obligation to care for the user friendliness o