Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "William Skaggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >You didn't address point (a). Really, these strings are meant as a > >description for developers, not for users. They don't explain what the > >plug-in does when being called interactively, they explain w

[Gimp-developer] Re: gegl integration /ui issues/ xml catalog

2004-03-29 Thread Øyvind Kolås
* Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040320 14:10]: > Michael Natterer wrote: > >Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>We could even consider having a quickish stable release after 2.2 with > >>just GeglImage replacing GimpLayer, which would give us a chance to > >>work out any wrinkle

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread William Skaggs
From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >You didn't address point (a). Really, these strings are meant as a >description for developers, not for users. They don't explain what the >plug-in does when being called interactively, they explain what the >particular PDB function does. There are plug-ins

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "William Skaggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, no. It's reasonably clear to me that "add alpha channel" should > not pop a dialog :-). But you're right, there is certainly an issue of how > to invoke help for something that does not present any interface > beyond a menu entry. Press

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "William Skaggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >The problem is that the "blurb" and "help" strings as they are > >registered with the PDB are (a) not meant to be user help You didn't address point (a). Really, these strings are meant as a description for developers, not for users. They don't

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 23:53, William Skaggs wrote: > >a) Menu entries have a rule about "...". Only those that request extra > >interaction must have the dots. Non interactive things have no dots. Please include a line which states who you are quoting. ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: making plans

2004-03-29 Thread William Skaggs
>a) Menu entries have a rule about "...". Only those that request extra >interaction must have the dots. Non interactive things have no dots. Interesting. I just automatically assumed that the dots meant that the name was truncated, and never paid attention to them again. >c) Maybe over menu? Ma

[Gimp-developer] Re: making plans

2004-03-29 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-03-29 at 1218.49 -0800): > >> 1) Every filter should produce a dialog when called interactively. > >> At the moment, some just do their thing without showing any dialog: > >> this is bad. > > > >Why is this bad? There are plug-ins that are supposed to be completely > >non-in

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread William Skaggs
>You have valid points Bill. However, popping up unnecessary dialogues will >also undesirably slow down and get in the way of many users. If you proceed >with your suggested changes, then I would strongly suggest an option to >bypass the dialogue for plug-ins that don't really need one. Well, t

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread William Skaggs
>The problem is that the "blurb" and "help" strings as they are >registered with the PDB are (a) not meant to be user help and (b) >missing or not helpful in almost all plug-ins. Also these strings >would have to be translatable. This could be easily changed but before >you call for translation th

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Kevin Myers
You have valid points Bill. However, popping up unnecessary dialogues will also undesirably slow down and get in the way of many users. If you proceed with your suggested changes, then I would strongly suggest an option to bypass the dialogue for plug-ins that don't really need one. s/KAM

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread William Skaggs
>> 1) Every filter should produce a dialog when called interactively. >> At the moment, some just do their thing without showing any dialog: >> this is bad. > >Why is this bad? There are plug-ins that are supposed to be completely >non-interactive. You call them from the menu, they do their job. W

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "William Skaggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Every filter should produce a dialog when called interactively. > At the moment, some just do their thing without showing any dialog: > this is bad. Why is this bad? There are plug-ins that are supposed to be completely non-interactive. You c

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread William Skaggs
From: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >would it be reasonable to have plug-ins that change the drawable to work >on a copy of the drawable? that would take away the need to >differentiate between the two. The point is that things like "Cancel" and "Okay" buttons are only relevant to a subset o

[Gimp-developer] Gimp.app

2004-03-29 Thread Aaron Voisine
There is now a 2.0.0 release of Gimp.app. Recent improvements include the ability to drop image files on the icon of a running gimp.app process. gimp-help 0.2 has been added to the bundle. Help and web browsing requests are now handled by the system's default browser. Printing now works with the 1.

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:09:37AM -0800, William Skaggs wrote: > > First, though, a little terminology. As I will use the terms, a > "plug-in" is an external executable that interacts with the Gimp core > via the plug-in mechanism. A "filter" is a plug-in that changes a > drawable in some way.

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread William Skaggs
Hi, I have been thinking about how to improve the consistency of the user interface for plug-ins, and have come up with a tentative plan and the mechanism for implementing it, which I will outline here to see if people think it is reasonable and workable. First, though, a little terminology. A

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Peter Kirchgessner
Hi, Joao S. O. Bueno schrieb: Hi, On Sunday 28 March 2004 16:47, Sven Neumann wrote: I have also one other improvement I think I could work on, and this would be great, so I might even postpone the above PDB stuff: Postscript saving plug-in. Actually, I have a similar list of things I believe I

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Joao S. O. Bueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My idea of saving text as curves would be: - having implemented a > "save vectors to postscript curves" (which I had done in python-fu > for gimp 1.2), create a "vector from text" thouhgh the PDB, and them > use this vector to save as postscrip

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Monday 29 March 2004 07:21, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, Hm,, I talk that much about postscript, because I have learned it, as it is supposed to be "human writable". PDF however is a neat subset, and although I know little of it, I suppose I could handle PDF saving with ADOBE docs - that is all o

Re: [Gimp-developer] making plans

2004-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Joao S. O. Bueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have also one other improvement I think I could work on, and this > would be great, so I might even postpone the above PDB stuff: > Postscript saving plug-in. > > Actually, I have a similar list of things I believe I can implement in > it,