Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 05 October 2005 03:11, Hal V. Engel wrote: > Windows and > Linux can live on the same machine with no problems.  So you do not > have to "destroy the Wind32 environment".  Many of the folks on this > list, myself included,  have both Linux and Windows running on the > machines they use

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 16:37, lode leroy wrote: > Would it be feasible to create a big zip-file that contains > everything for gimp for download? If you call it "GIMP-toaster", many people will instantly recognise its purpose. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; t

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 05 October 2005 01:50, Lance Dockins wrote: >     * Time >     * A spare hard drive >     * A reliable partition manager (instead of a drive) >     * Perhaps an alternate computer entirely >     * Potential other hardware for those components that >     Linux drivers don't function w

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2005-10-04 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 08:08:45PM -0400, michael chang wrote: > Just to note, live systems on optical media won't preserve data > between reboots without storing it somewhere, e.g. on a file or > partition (Knoppix does this with some scripts somewhere IIRC). I > don't know about USB systems. We

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread michael chang
On 10/4/05, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lode leroy writes: > > The thing is that for compiling gimp from cvs, you need quite some > expertise > > in the autotools, libtool, aclocal, pkg-config etc to fix those > > not-100%-working-together- distributed binaries... > > > Would it

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread michael chang
On 10/4/05, Lance Dockins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this is so interesting. Win32 has succeeded in making linux expensive. > > > > you are asking that the Win32 environment not work the way it was > > designed to work -- at least i think this is what you are saying. > > > > i am very impres

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4]

2005-10-04 Thread michael chang
On 10/4/05, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lance wrote: > > * A spare hard drive > > * A reliable partition manager (instead of a drive) > > * Perhaps an alternate computer entirely > > Just to be a weenie, I'll mention live CDs like Knoppix. There'll be a DVD version too, at one point

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 02:28 pm, Lance Dockins wrote: > Hal V. Engel wrote: > > If all you need is enough of a Linux installation to get GIMP > > to build and to test GIMP then the amount of diskspace needed to do this > > is fairly small and you can free up a partition on your existing hard >

[Gimp-developer] Let's tighten the ship a bit here ...

2005-10-04 Thread William Skaggs
Hey folks, Before you send a message to this list, please give a moment of thought to whether the entire GIMP development community really needs to read what you are writing. If not, how about using private email? Thank you, -- Bill __ __ __ __

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Lance Dockins
Hal V. Engel wrote: If all you need is enough of a Linux installation to get GIMP to build and to test GIMP then the amount of diskspace needed to do this is fairly small and you can free up a partition on your existing hard drive(s) to do this. Good point. I thought of doing this myself,

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2005-10-04 Thread Bill Kendrick
Lance wrote: > * A spare hard drive > * A reliable partition manager (instead of a drive) > * Perhaps an alternate computer entirely Just to be a weenie, I'll mention live CDs like Knoppix. Or even USB-bootable systems. (I got to play with one of those this past weekend at a friend's workplace.

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 09:58 am, Carol Spears wrote: > On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 09:04:42AM -0500, Lance Dockins wrote: > > I should also clarify that I have considered switching to Linux to make > > this easier, but I just don't have the time, money, and hardware to do > > so without destroying

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Lance Dockins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I should also clarify that I have considered switching to Linux to > make this easier, but I just don't have the time, money, and hardware > to do so without destroying the Win32 environment I'm required to use > in the professional world. My guess

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Carol Spears
yeah, i read something that seemed as if it was too expensive to use free software and a sane build environment. i have been wrong before. carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Lance Dockins
this is so interesting. Win32 has succeeded in making linux expensive. you are asking that the Win32 environment not work the way it was designed to work -- at least i think this is what you are saying. i am very impressed that it was able to make free software expensive, this is a simply ama

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread jernej
On Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 18:11:36, Michael Schumacher wrote: > It is also possible to create them yourself, from the DLL files. The MinGW > docs contain a section about this (using pexports and dlltool, IIRC). Didn't you write instructions for this in the wiki?

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 09:04:42AM -0500, Lance Dockins wrote: > > I should also clarify that I have considered switching to Linux to make > this easier, but I just don't have the time, money, and hardware to do > so without destroying the Win32 environment I'm required to use in the > professi

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Monday, October 3, 2005, 16:49:59, lode leroy wrote: > > > So the "missing dll's" in question are a build-environment > > issue, and not a gimp-compilation issue... > > Just make sure you use the correct import libraries. It is also possible to create them yourself

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Von: "lode leroy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >From: Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "lode leroy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu > >Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4 > >Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 01:48:10 +0300 > > > >lode leroy writes: > > > In fact, wha

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Lance Dockins
Tor Lillqvist wrote: It would be possible, but wouldn't such a zipfile just create open up the possibility for even more confusion when there would then be yet another distribution of these libs? Tor, You're right. Alternative packages always open up the possibility for more confusion whe

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Tor Lillqvist
lode leroy writes: > The thing is that for compiling gimp from cvs, you need quite some expertise > in the autotools, libtool, aclocal, pkg-config etc to fix those > not-100%-working-together- distributed binaries... > Would it be feasible to create a big zip-file that contains everything for

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread lode leroy
From: Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lode leroy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 01:48:10 +0300 lode leroy writes: > In fact, what happens is that when linking with ZLIB.DLL, > the exe expects Z

[Gimp-developer] RE: Any suggestions?

2005-10-04 Thread lode leroy
On where to download the best Win32 binaries for a MinGW/MSys setup ? I downloaded most binaries from http://www.mingw.org MinGW-4.1.0.exe binutils-2.15.91-20040904-1.tar.gz gcc-core-3.4.2-20040916-1.tar.gz gcc-g++-3.4.2-20040916-1.tar.gz mingw-runtime-3.7.tar.gz mingw-utils-0.3.tar.gz msys-aut