[Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-02 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
[Repost after a list resurrection] As far as I understand, one of the principal usability features is a progressive escalation of help. One does not want to drink from a fire hydrant - unless any other option is exhausted. One always wants as little help as possible - as far as it

[Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-02 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
[Repost after a list resurrection] I've read through the discussion of (a possibility of) a single-window GIMP interface. Both on the mailing list, and on http://www.mmiworks.net/eng/publications/2009/09/gimp-single-mode.html However, I do not see how much this would affect the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-02 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: a focus?  So how does this improves the current nightmares (e.g., keyboard shortcuts not working - especially when most needed ;-)? Lemme guess - you are on WIndows? :) Alexandre ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-02 Thread peter sikking
Ilya Zakharevich wrote: However, I do not see how much this would affect the (AFAIK) main complaint about multi-window GIMP: that having several windows with several possibilities of what is focused requires many extraneous mouse clicks and/or keypresses. the introduction of a single window

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-02 Thread peter sikking
Ilya Zakharevich wrote: To make a long story short: 3 stages is, of course, not enough - especially with applications which target SIMULTANEOUSLY professionals and first-time-Linux-users. I understand first-time-Linux-users as really newby linux desktop users, not beginner-GIMP-users (we have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-02 Thread peter sikking
Akira wrote: [1] By the way, many people would find nice to see more digital-artist oriented features such as a mixing brush for example, of which there's a third party GIMP source code patch here: http://sourceforge.jp/projects/gimp-painter/releases/ I remember and checked: we discussed

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-02 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
peter sikking wrote: so I am sorry. no additions solely for digital-artists. Many people (and really I mean many) use Photoshop or GIMP, the closest open source equivalent program, for paint-for-scratch work even though they're really not suited for this job. This is because almost all

Re: [Gimp-developer] Invoking custom Gimp module from Web (Apache)

2009-10-02 Thread Alexia Death
On Friday 02 October 2009 18:47:46 Vio wrote: This would suggest a permissions problem, but I'm not sure. I wonder: does Gimp need to write to the user home directory by any chance? In that case, 'www-data' (the apache user) doesn't have a home directory per se. Gimp needs a place IIRC

Re: [Gimp-developer] Invoking custom Gimp module from Web (Apache)

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/02/2009 05:47 PM, Vio wrote: gimp --no-interface --batch='(python-fu-pdf2jpg RUN-NONINTERACTIVE /path/to/image/to/proces.pdf )' --batch='(gimp-quit 1)' doesn't get executed. Or it does but fails silently - which is not very helpful here !! Does it help if you set the GIMP2_DIRECTORY

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/01/2009 07:46 PM, peter sikking wrote: meanwhile, can the overlay thing be repaired file-backward-compatible? If you refer to the Overlay layer mode being different when using GEGL compositing compared to legacy compositing, then yes I'm sure it's repairable, and we don't have much choice

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-02 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Martin Renold wrote: [cut] But those brush modes would copy the composited image into the current layer and brighten it there. The result would look on the screen as if you had flattened the image first. If I understood you correctly, this is exactly what you proposed in your footnote?

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-02 Thread peter sikking
Martin Nordholts wrote: On 10/01/2009 07:46 PM, peter sikking wrote: meanwhile, can the overlay thing be repaired file-backward- compatible? If you refer to the Overlay layer mode being different when using GEGL compositing compared to legacy compositing, then yes I'm sure it's repairable,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-02 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 06:22 +, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: 0) Remove Press F1 to view manual from tooltips unless GIMP knows that a manual is present, and knows to which page to jump. Since GIMP offers to read the manual online, the manual is always present. Or rather, it becomes rather

Re: [Gimp-developer] Invoking custom Gimp module from Web (Apache)

2009-10-02 Thread Vio
Thanks for the hints ... Some interesting developments while running under sudo. The first run: - sudo -u www-data gimp --no-interface --batch='(python-fu-pdf2jpg RUN-NONINTERACTIVE /dd/d/app/front/PAK_live/srvr/xformx.com/run/pdf_forms/le-50.0.11.01(2008-10)d8.pdf )'

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-02 Thread Patrick Horgan
peter sikking wrote: Akira wrote: [1] By the way, many people would find nice to see more digital-artist oriented features such as a mixing brush for example, of which there's a third party GIMP source code patch here: http://sourceforge.jp/projects/gimp-painter/releases/ I remember and