[Gimp-developer] Save + Export proposal

2009-10-20 Thread photocomix
i knew that Peter Sikking (or somebody else from Gimp UI brainstorm staff)replied but the message get lost for technical problems (full storage disk) I am very interested to know the content of that reply,i hope you may send again now -- photocomix (via www.gimpusers.com) __

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save + Export proposal

2009-10-20 Thread peter sikking
photocomix wrote: > i knew that Peter Sikking (or somebody else from Gimp UI brainstorm > staff)replied but the message get lost for technical problems (full > storage > disk) yes, I am (by default) the Gimp UI brainstorm staff, and I had about 3 threads going on here before the list collapsed.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save + Export proposal

2009-10-20 Thread Rob Antonishen
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM, peter sikking wrote: > so that is why I am against this. > >     --ps Even that said, anyone is free to develop a save and export plugin and offer it up for public consumption. It may not make it into the core, but assuming it is worthwhile, it will find use.

[Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi everyone! It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable to assume that these problems will continue. What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally I would be fine with tha

[Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi everyone! It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable to assume that these problems will continue. What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally I would be fine with tha

Re: [Gimp-developer] Content distribution system

2009-10-20 Thread Rob Antonishen
I know that plugins and scripts are only s subset, but there is a bit of discussion (not around a distribution system per se, but) on plugin and script/management/duplication and general user confusion here: http://registry.gimp.org/node/17300 There was also a discussion on tagging scripts and plu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer folders: layer masks?

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Natterer
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 04:53 +0200, Brett wrote: > I don't know if the developers planned it or decided to take it out. but in > the earlier dev versions of gimp before the single widow mode XD, when layer > folders was first introduced their was the ability to add a layer mask to that > folder.. ..

[Gimp-developer] layer modes repertoire [was: Icons for layer modes]

2009-10-20 Thread yahvuu
hi again, knitting some dropped postings together... peter sikking wrote: > > yahvuu wrote: > > >>> >>> actually a question for peter (yahvuu): how complete is this >>> >>> overview? >> >> most notably, the porter-duff modes are not listed. >> >> I'll have a look to make the overview as complete

Re: [Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-20 Thread yahvuu
Martin Nordholts wrote: > Hi everyone! > > It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but > it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable > to assume that these problems will continue. > > What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1

Re: [Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-20 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 18:22:39, Martin Nordholts wrote: > What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally > I would be fine with that. As long as it works better, I'm all for it. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > The most interesting

[Gimp-developer] Airbrush/Brush Banding Effect At Low Pressure/Opacity

2009-10-20 Thread Christopher Howard
Hi. To try to learn GIMP development, I have been looking into old bug #588681 (Airbrush tool produces banding with with soft brush). From the initial problem summary: "The Airbrush produces bandings when its used with a soft brush and low pressure. The sharp edges in the bands is [sic] very visi

Re: [Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-20 Thread Sven Neumann
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 18:22 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Hi everyone! > > It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but > it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable > to assume that these problems will continue. > > What do people think abo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Airbrush/Brush Banding Effect At Low Pressure/Opacity

2009-10-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 12:22 -0800, Christopher Howard wrote: > Though having a far from sufficient understanding of how the GIMP brush > painting process works, it seems to me like this is the fundamental > problem: In making black-and-white brushes semi-transparent, GIMP > somehow "levels ou

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save + Export proposal

2009-10-20 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
[Looks like every time I post, I kill the list. My apologies; reposting] On 2009-10-05, photoco...@gmail.com wrote: > So why do not offer a chance to speed up the workflow, save time and > patience > achieving both result simultaneusly ? > > A image is worth 1.000 words ,to avoid misunderstu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-20 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-02, Sven Neumann wrote: >> 0) Remove "Press F1 to view manual" from tooltips unless GIMP knows >> that a manual is present, and knows to which page to jump. > Since GIMP offers to read the manual online, the manual is always > present. Or rather, it becomes rather difficult to t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-20 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-02, peter sikking wrote: >> To make a long story short: 3 stages is, of course, not enough - >> especially with applications which target SIMULTANEOUSLY professionals >> and first-time-Linux-users. > I understand "first-time-Linux-users" as really newby linux desktop > users, not begin

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-02, peter sikking wrote: >> However, I do not see how much this would affect the (AFAIK) main >> complaint about multi-window GIMP: that having several windows with >> several possibilities of what is focused requires many extraneous >> mouse clicks and/or keypresses. > the introductio

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> 2.6.6.  Tested on Windows. As has been said before, one should not think that the way GIMP's windows behave on Windows is how they are supposed to behave. There are bugs in GTK+ on Windows that affect GIMP. It is pointless to describe the misbehaviour of GIMP windows on Windows to GIMP develope

[Gimp-developer] Layer entry - too little space?

2009-10-20 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
"The developer's vision" of GIMP UI directions complains that there is no space on a layer entry (one in the layers list) to show layer grouping. My observations on the topic: a) Current layer entry contains too little info anyway. There is no indication of presence of a alpha channel (mo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer entry - too little space?

2009-10-20 Thread Jason van Gumster
Ilya Zakharevich wrote: > a) Current layer entry contains too little info anyway. There is no > indication of presence of a alpha channel I could be wrong here, but at least for me layers without an alpha channel are named in bold text. As for the merging of icons, how do you handle t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer entry - too little space?

2009-10-20 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-21, Jason van Gumster wrote: >> a) Current layer entry contains too little info anyway. There is no >> indication of presence of a alpha channel > > I could be wrong here, but at least for me layers without an alpha channel are > named in bold text. Might be. But you see that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-21, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > It is pointless to describe the misbehaviour of GIMP windows on > Windows to GIMP developers, as they don't use Windows themselves. Let me restate it: it is pointless to fix bugs/problems on windows, since they do not happen (and if they happen, develope

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: > On 2009-10-21, Tor Lillqvist wrote: >> It is pointless to describe the misbehaviour of GIMP windows on >> Windows to GIMP developers, as they don't use Windows themselves. > > Let me restate it: > >  it is pointless to fix bugs/problems o

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: > On 2009-10-02, peter sikking wrote: >>> However, I do not see how much this would affect the (AFAIK) main >>> complaint about multi-window GIMP: that having several windows with >>> several possibilities of what is focused requires many

Re: [Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
2009/10/20 Sven Neumann : > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 18:22 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: >> What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally >> I would be fine with that. > > I don't quite understand why we don't pull the problem at its roots and > look for a new admin for the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Content distribution system

2009-10-20 Thread Stephen Craig Griffiths
I started off with a misunderstanding of what a content distribution system means to GIMP, after speaking to Peter Sikking (guiguru) I understand it to be: -a process of packaging, hosting (not us, website/browser based) and then installing, where we aim to make the install, uninstall much easier

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: > Good to know; so let me refine: is there ANYTHING in the move to > single window which would not be achieved by > >  a) restricting the maximal size of image window to the gap between >     two toolboxes; and > >  b) making z-order changes