Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:13:30PM +, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder, could the typical fork() immeditaly followed by exec() (in > the child process) be somehow detected by Cygwin/MSYS, avoiding the > need for emulating the full fork() semantics in this typical case? No, b

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:46:27PM +, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MSYS does not depend on cygwin, BTW. It's entirely standalone. Why do you claim this if a few simple checks could have convinced you otherwise? At least the shell, which is just bash, is linked against the cygwin

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:29:07AM -0800, Manish Singh wrote: > Yeah, gcc is quite slow at compile time, and I think in newer versions > it's gotten slower, not faster. >From the gcc3.4 changes.html: * Precompiled headers are now supported. Precompiled headers can dramatically speed up compilat

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:57:15PM +, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > But I don't think the actual time it takes to run gcc is what annoys > people most when building stuff that uses auto*/libtool on > Windows. For me, the most annoying part is libtool. This shell-script > is mind-bogglingly slow. Runni

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:13:30PM +, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > They both have to implement fork() using Windows calls though, > > which can never be efficient. > > (Just rambling here:) > > I wonder, could the typical fork() immeditaly followed by exec() (in > the chil

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Roger Leigh writes: > MSYS does not depend on cygwin, BTW. It's entirely standalone. MSYS is a *fork* (version) of Cygwin. As the mingw FAQ says, "The POSIX layer used by MSYS is a fork of the 1.3.3 version of Cygwin". (But maybe that was what you meant.) > They both have to implement fork() u

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Adam D. Moss writes: > The only thing I can think of would be if the > //etc headers that get pulled into just about > every file on a win32 build expand into monsterous evil and add > measurably to the unit compilation time. Well, that probably is the reason. *is* quite large. But none of t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Roger Leigh
Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> writes: > >> which is a severe shortcoming of the build environment (AFAIK, Msys >> uses cygwin which is awfully slow due to a large number of >> reasons). MSYS does not depend on cygwin, BTW. It's ent

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:08:20PM +, "Adam D. Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a data point, I use a (optimized build) mingw cross-compiler > hosted on linux, and the raw compilation itself takes a lot longer > (50% longer, or more) than the same compiler version built That's interesting

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:46:54PM +0100, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This sounds like if you had a clue on what is causing the slowliness > of running configure on Cygnus. The biggest reason is very slow fork(), followed by extremely slow select(), filehandle operations, pipes and m

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Adam D. Moss
Sven Neumann wrote: which is a severe shortcoming of the build environment (AFAIK, Msys uses cygwin which is awfully slow due to a large number of reasons). This sounds like if you had a clue on what is causing the slowliness of running configure on Cygnus. I recently compiled the Blinkenlights so

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> writes: > which is a severe shortcoming of the build environment (AFAIK, Msys > uses cygwin which is awfully slow due to a large number of > reasons). This sounds like if you had a clue on what is causing the slowliness of running configure on Cygn

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-13 Thread pcg
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:19:44PM +0100, Hans Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - especially if they stop to work as advertised, or if the configure > step takes longer than the actual package compile ;-] which is a severe shortcoming of the build environment (AFAIK, Msys uses cygwin which is a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-13 Thread Michael Schumacher
Hans Breuer wrote: > At 15:32 12.12.03 +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> "Adam D. Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > Out of interest, what's wrong with mingw's toolchain? I > >> > never have tried (and never will!) to build GIMP with it, but > >> > it generally cope

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-13 Thread Hans Breuer
At 15:32 12.12.03 +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote: >> Hi, >> >> "Adam D. Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Out of interest, what's wrong with mingw's toolchain? I >> > never have tried (and never will!) to build GIMP with it, but >> > it generally copes adequately with the mildly-unix-ce

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Michael Schumacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sven, stop spreading FUD ;) > Cygwin and MinGW are the tools of choice on Win32 for compiling GIMP. Sorry. I drew conclusions on the removal of the mingw makefiles then. So mingw seems to work with the standard set of makefiles nowadays.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Hi, > > "Adam D. Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Out of interest, what's wrong with mingw's toolchain? I > > never have tried (and never will!) to build GIMP with it, but > > it generally copes adequately with the mildly-unix-centric > > codebases I throw at it. > > I might be wrong s

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Shrinivas, Shrinivas Kulkarni wrote: Therefore I got pkg-config-0.15.0 and tried building it first, unfortunately it is giving some compiler errors. Is there any place where I can get precompile binaries for pkg-config. I am really running short of time, therefore I do not think I should spend

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Shrinivas Kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We can still execute cofigure script, which in turn generates make > file for GIMP. :) These are makefiles for GNU make. If they work for mingw, that's fine then. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Shrinivas Kulkarni
> Hi, > > "Adam D. Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Out of interest, what's wrong with mingw's toolchain? I > > never have tried (and never will!) to build GIMP with it, but > > it generally copes adequately with the mildly-unix-centric > > codebases I throw at it. > > I might be wrong sin

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Adam D. Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Out of interest, what's wrong with mingw's toolchain? I > never have tried (and never will!) to build GIMP with it, but > it generally copes adequately with the mildly-unix-centric > codebases I throw at it. I might be wrong since I don't compile

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Adam D. Moss
Sven Neumann wrote: "Shrinivas Kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Therefore I got pkg-config-0.15.0 and tried building it first, unfortunately it is giving some compiler errors. Is there any place where I can get precompile binaries for pkg-config. http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.h

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Shrinivas Kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Therefore I got pkg-config-0.15.0 and tried building it first, > unfortunately it is giving some compiler errors. Is there any place > where I can get precompile binaries for pkg-config. http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Shrinivas Kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But given the scope of libgimp, where we can draw selections, cut, > paste from image without using Toolbox ( by calling functions with > prividing drawable id ), I do not understand, why I cannot have > image created and displayed without GI

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Shrinivas Kulkarni
Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK > > Hi Shrinivas, > > Shrinivas Kulkarni wrote: > > By "using GIMP" I mean to use GIMP as library. Such facilty

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Shrinivas, Shrinivas Kulkarni wrote: By "using GIMP" I mean to use GIMP as library. Such facilty may be necessary since we may not want user to have all the functionality that Core GIMP provides. For example, we may want user to draw on the image( lines, curves), but may want user to allow appl

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-11 Thread Shrinivas Kulkarni
ny. Thanks and regards, Shrinivas Kulkarni. - Original Message - From: "Daniel Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shrinivas Kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer]

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It depends on what you mean by "using GIMP." You can use gimp as a > rendering backend, if you want. There has been some discussion of the > portability of our internal widgets and that they might be useful as > another library. The code is much

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shrinivas Kulkarni wrote: | Is there any way to display GIMP image in GTK controls? There is one | more question I have is that, can we write a standalone app using GIMP. | This question arises, because, I do not want to use all the | funcitonality of G

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-11 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Shrinivas, Shrinivas Kulkarni wrote: Is there any way to display GIMP image in GTK controls? If by GIMP image you mean an XCF, then I don't know of any such widget. However, the GtkImage widget supports a number of file formats - including png, tiff, xbm, gif and jpeg. There is one more que

[Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-10 Thread Shrinivas Kulkarni
Is there any way to display GIMP image in GTK controls? There is one more question I have is that, can we write a standalone app using GIMP. This question arises, because, I do not want to use all the funcitonality of GIMP, but want to have my own toolbox and still able to use selective func