I can't subscribe so as to submit a contest entry, probably because of
massive beating on the site.... Hopefully later on it will come back....
Better to just send all submissions to Sven via email ;-) ok, just a
small joke.

D

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> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:34:04 +0100
> From: David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi all,
> 
> After a false start, the GIMP Splash Contest is now officially
> open!
> 
> The contest runs until next Sunday, Midnight. Splash screens
> should be the same size as jimmac's logo and have a pale band
> across the bottom roughly the same size. Otherwise, knock
> yourselves out!
> 
> Competition entries should be attached to the live.gnome.org wiki
> page at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fGimpSplashContest - you
> will need to create a wiki account. We will definitely have some
> kind of (small) prize sponsored, details will follow during the
> week (but the real reason you are doing it is the glory, right?)
> 
> Good luck to everyone! And don't forget, spread the news!
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave Neary.
> 
> -- 
>         David Neary,
>         Lyon, France
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> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:06:03 +0100
> From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: 2.2 splash screen competition
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> Hi,
> 
> David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > The contest runs until next Sunday, Midnight. Splash screens
> > should be the same size as jimmac's logo and have a pale band
> > across the bottom roughly the same size. Otherwise, knock
> > yourselves out!
> 
> Actually, the band at the bottom doesn't necessarily have to be pale.
> GIMP 2.2 checks the color of the bottom area of the splash and chooses
> a suitable level of gray for the text overlay. The area at the bottom
> should however not have too much contrast or the text will become
> unreadable. Your best bet is that you try to use your image as a
> splash with a GIMP-2.2 pre-release. http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/
> tells you how to do that.
> 
> 
> Sven
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:13:23 -0800
> From: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       GIMPDev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-announce] 2.2 splash
>       screen competition
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> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:11:21AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > 
> > I wouldn't wait for this to happen if I was you. The news system
> > hasn't been resurrected for several months so I am pretty sure that
> > the contest section has a similar unsolveable problem. We should use
> > what's available but sorry, the mailing-lists won't work.
> > 
> from the Changelog.  
> 
> 2004-11-29  Helvetix Victorinox  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>         * Cut over to the new (old) news system.
> 
> 
> let me see if i can sum up what has happened.  please correct me if i am
> wrong.
> 
> gimp has a completed web site which was put on hold until people could
>      their things off from the old computer
> 
> gimp web team dis-assembles some to try to put together something for
>      gimpcon2 in berlin at the ccc camp
> 
> the web site becomes disassembled by someone else for reasons that are
>     still not answered
> 
> the old working pieces do not get moved because the new head of the web
>     team was more respectful and simply disappeared (instead of having 
>     opinions and trouble and quitting)
> 
> everything waits for this new/gone yet not quit leader
> 
> now it is too late?
> 
> please fix this information.  i know it must be wrong.  it looks like
> someone has been acting emotionally and not doing the right thing for
> the wrong reasons.
> 
> carol
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:12:39 -0800
> From: Manish Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-announce] 2.2 splash
>       screen competition
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> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:11:21AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > If this could be done today, that would be a great solution
> > > (imho).
> > 
> > I wouldn't wait for this to happen if I was you. The news system
> > hasn't been resurrected for several months so I am pretty sure that
> > the contest section has a similar unsolveable problem. We should use
> > what's available but sorry, the mailing-lists won't work.
> 
> The news was fixed last night. The contest will be worked on soon.
> 
> Please take the current contest down. It should be on www.gimp.org.
> 
> It seems that few people learned from the mistakes of the last contest.
> Once again, it is slashdotted. The framework on wgo was designed to
> handle that load. Wikis aren't.
> 
> Why did nobody wait for any real input? (remember, there was a holiday
> weekend in the US that just finished). This is shameful.
> 
> -Yosh
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:01:20 +0100
> From: David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Manish Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.2 splash screen competition
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> Hi,
> 
> Manish Singh wrote:
> > The news was fixed last night. The contest will be worked on soon.
> 
> In case you hadn't noticed, we're due a release next week. How
> soon is soon?
> 
> > Please take the current contest down. It should be on www.gimp.org.
> 
> No.
> 
> > It seems that few people learned from the mistakes of the last contest.
> > Once again, it is slashdotted. The framework on wgo was designed to
> > handle that load. Wikis aren't.
> 
> It'll do, it's better than nothing.
> 
> > Why did nobody wait for any real input? (remember, there was a holiday
> > weekend in the US that just finished). This is shameful.
> 
> I didn't know. I'm an Irishman living in France - how am I
> supposed to know about USA holidays?
> 
> We have different definitions of shame.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave.
> 
> -- 
>         David Neary,
>         Lyon, France
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:01:19 -0800
> From: Manish Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: GIMP web <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.2 splash screen competition
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> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:01:20PM +0100, David Neary wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Manish Singh wrote:
> > > The news was fixed last night. The contest will be worked on soon.
> > 
> > In case you hadn't noticed, we're due a release next week. How
> > soon is soon?
> 
> Today.
>  
> > > Please take the current contest down. It should be on www.gimp.org.
> > 
> > No.
> 
>  
> > > It seems that few people learned from the mistakes of the last contest.
> > > Once again, it is slashdotted. The framework on wgo was designed to
> > > handle that load. Wikis aren't.
> > 
> > It'll do, it's better than nothing.
> 
> No, it won't do.
>  
> > > Why did nobody wait for any real input? (remember, there was a holiday
> > > weekend in the US that just finished). This is shameful.
> > 
> > I didn't know. I'm an Irishman living in France - how am I
> > supposed to know about USA holidays?
> 
> Cause they are mentioned in gimp forums, just like european holidays are
> (and respected).
>  
> You *are* expected to know about timezones, and at least wait till
> Pacific Standard Time for comments.
> 
> -Yosh
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:37:00 +0100
> From: David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Manish Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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> Hi,
> 
> Manish Singh wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:01:20PM +0100, David Neary wrote:
> > > In case you hadn't noticed, we're due a release next week. How
> > > soon is soon?
> > 
> > Today.
> 
> If you want to do the work of changing all the places that things
> have been said now, be my guest. Let me know, I'll blog the new
> location. Otherwise, the wiki will do for the week. It's not like
> we're going to get hundreds of entries.
> 
> > > > Why did nobody wait for any real input? (remember, there was a holiday
> > > > weekend in the US that just finished). This is shameful.
> > > 
> > > I didn't know. I'm an Irishman living in France - how am I
> > > supposed to know about USA holidays?
> > 
> > Cause they are mentioned in gimp forums, just like european holidays are
> > (and respected).
> 
> Were you expecting us to wait for some comments from *you*
> specifically before starting something?
> 
> > You *are* expected to know about timezones, and at least wait till
> > Pacific Standard Time for comments.
> 
> The initial (wrong) announcement was last evening at 19h CET, 11h
> PST which certainly gave you enough time to comment before we had
> to sort something out.
> 
> Dave.

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