Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

Robert Krawitz wrote: > I think the case of "text black" is a partial, qualified exception -- > but it's arguable that it has any bearing on RGB vs. CMYK. It really > means "the darkest, sharpest black that can be produced" regardless of > rendering device. It could just as well be represented a

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Andrew A. Gill wrote: > After all, there's a way to get PMS to work with Scribus (and I > believe you can use this to get approximations in GIMP as well): > You mean http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, peter sikking wrote: > > the plan as you can see in my conclusions does not hardwire a > cmyk system, it uses (stolen from pippin) an "everything is spot" > aka a-plate-is-a-plate system where the separation is free > configurable, and cmyk and cmy+k are standard configurations

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

Robert Krawitz wrote: >> where's the spanner? > >> Against CMYK, regardless of what system you use, text black is >> going to be a spot color, so it could just as easily be RGB+K, >> CMYK+K, LAB+K, or even YIQ+K. > > I meant the latter. > > I remember that on some older monitors and graphics

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:48:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew A. Gill" On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, peter sikking wrote: > > OK, that part I already got before I wrote my digest. But Robert > points this out to show that there is a (minor) spanner in the works. > > where's the spanner

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, peter sikking wrote: > > OK, that part I already got before I wrote my digest. But Robert > points this out to show that there is a (minor) spanner in the works. > > where's the spanner? There are two spanners: one in favor of CMYK and one against. I'm not sure which Robert m

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

Andrew A. Gill wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, peter sikking wrote: >>> >>> I think the case of "text black" is a partial, qualified exception >>> -- >> >> I have a hard time spotting what you mean. this is troubling >> because I will have to understand the everything to be able >> to drive the Ui

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, peter sikking wrote: >> >> I think the case of "text black" is a partial, qualified exception -- > > I have a hard time spotting what you mean. this is troubling > because I will have to understand the everything to be able > to drive the Ui side of the solution. Here, this ma

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

Andrew A. Gill wrote: > I think I agree with 99% of what you wrote. Clarifications/quibbles: > (wait. Nevermind. Probably about 75%) I better explain some things before that drops even further >^} >> 4) tiff or pdf? it is just a transport method. it is a strategic >> choice what to do first/

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Robert Krawitz wrote: > > I think the case of "text black" is a partial, qualified exception -- > but it's arguable that it has any bearing on RGB vs. CMYK. It really > means "the darkest, sharpest black that can be produced" regardless of > rendering device. It could just as

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

Robert Krawitz wrote: > From: peter sikking >> this whole pdf/cmyk discussion has been a nice exercise for me >> in getting to "know the activity" as Don Norman calls it. >> >> this is what I digest from all that has been said here: >> >> rule #1: the topic we are talking all the time a

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

I think I agree with 99% of what you wrote. Clarifications/quibbles: (wait. Nevermind. Probably about 75%) On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, peter sikking wrote: > > 4) tiff or pdf? it is just a transport method. it is a strategic >choice what to do first/better/at all. PDF isn't really appropriate fo

Re: [Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

From: peter sikking Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:20:48 +0100 this whole pdf/cmyk discussion has been a nice exercise for me in getting to "know the activity" as Don Norman calls it. this is what I digest from all that has been said here: rule #1: the topic we are talking all the

[Gimp-developer] digested: printing presses, cmyk, tiff + pdf...

hey crew, this whole pdf/cmyk discussion has been a nice exercise for me in getting to "know the activity" as Don Norman calls it. this is what I digest from all that has been said here: rule #1: the topic we are talking all the time about here is not cmyk, tiff or pdf. the topic we are talking