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2011-11-10 Thread Sparr
We know. It's OK. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Coby Ricketts wrote: > People are selling gimp on ebay I just thought you should know this. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gim

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2011-11-10 Thread Coby Ricketts
People are selling gimp on ebay I just thought you should know this. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Michael Natterer
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 10:09 -0800, Patrick Horgan wrote: > I hope that we do continue with smart funny developer splashes even if > they offend some. I would be sad to find that the overly politically > correct (imho) would be the ones that set the bar so low for the rest of > us. It's a part of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread yahvuu
Hi Aleksandar, Am 10.11.2011 07:34, schrieb Aleksandar Kovac: [..] I have noticed last year, as a part of a research, that among the users, there are GIMP 'monks' way up 'above' who seem to know every trick and loophole there is. Then, there are those brave initiates who try enthusiastically. Ma

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Patrick Horgan
On 11/10/2011 12:39 AM, Alexia Death wrote: > ... elision by patrick ... > > Aside all that, by personal firm belief is that we get trolled over > the name and other things so much that occasionally trolling back is > mandatory for sanity ;) I know Martin disagrees ;) Thank you. Please carry on.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Patrick Horgan
I hope that we do continue with smart funny developer splashes even if they offend some. I would be sad to find that the overly politically correct (imho) would be the ones that set the bar so low for the rest of us. It's a part of open source to make jokes like that. It always has. Smart peopl

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
> "The more people that use the latest GIMP code from git the better. It keeps > the required effort to contribute code upstreams small, which in turn > increases the likelihood of upstream contributions, and it makes bugs more > vulnerable to early discovery which minimizes their impact." I guess

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:05 PM, phanisvara das wrote: > martin nordholts, in a blog post from 2009 ( > http://www.chromecode.com/2009/12/best-way-to-keep-up-with-gimp-from-git_26.html > ) : > > "The more people that use the latest GIMP code from git the better. It keeps > the required effort to c

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread phanisvara das
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:19:00 +0530, Jeremy Morton wrote: They are NOT SUPPOSED TO do exactly that! Ever! They may want to, but its not a good idea from anybody's perceptive. Development versions may for example write incompatible or corrupt files may have features that will not be in the fina

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: > Well if you want advanced users to use final releases, perhaps release them > more often than once every 2 years?  ;-) We are aspiring to do exactly that and move to git is guite good at supporting that ;) -- --Alexia _

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Jeremy Morton
On 10/11/2011 13:45, Alexia Death wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: On 10/11/2011 12:47, Rob Antonishen wrote: The same could be said for any complex piece of software. I would disagree that there are many "middle ground users" anymore - and they shouldn't be a a t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Aleksandar Kovac wrote: > No, I really think 'a general user won't see it' is a lame excuse. It would > make many people happy, me especially, and make the world a nicer place, if > only someone could come up with a solid working definition of 'a general > user' so

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Aleksandar Kovac
On 11-11-10 21:47 , Rob Antonishen wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Aleksandar Kovac wrote: The same could be said for any complex piece of software. I would disagree that there are many "middle ground users" anymore - and they shouldn't be a a target audience. I agree, they should no

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Aleksandar Kovac
On 11-11-10 18:51 , Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Using development versions causes cancer, brings 20 year of unluck on your family and kills kittens by thousands. People wo use graphics software professionally tend to use apps that produce _repeatedly_ consistent output. No dev version _ever_ guar

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Jeremy Morton
On 10/11/2011 12:47, Rob Antonishen wrote: The same could be said for any complex piece of software. I would disagree that there are many "middle ground users" anymore - and they shouldn't be a a target audience. So take the power users then. They might want to use a recent development versi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Rob Antonishen
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Aleksandar Kovac wrote: > > The baddies: And somehow, to an uninitiated, GIMP often comes across as a > baffling mess. I have noticed last year, as a part of a research, that > among the users, there are GIMP 'monks' way up 'above' who seem to know > every trick a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: > Speaking of 2.6 being old, how accurate is this tasktaste graph? > http://tasktaste.com/projects/Enselic/gimp-2-8 Martin updated it last week, so it's pretty accurate. Up to a point :) > It would seem to suggest there are maybe 1-2 weeks of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Jeremy Morton
On 10/11/2011 09:51, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Aleksandar Kovac wrote: "It's only a dev version, general users won't see it." is a lame excuse on many levels. Is there 'us' and 'them' in open source? Come on, you are smarter than that. Of course there is "u

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Alexia Death wrote: > Cinepaint hasn't made releases in years (and two of the last releases > don't even have source code tarballs) despite of endless promises. The > only thing that is alive is Kai-Uw

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Alexia Death wrote: > There's also cinepaint that was geared for movie world and the painter > fork that seems to be maintained rather sanely as a set of patches on > vanilla gimp. There's a few things that Id like to merge from there, > but it's a bit tricky and w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread phanisvara das
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:21:16 +0530, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Using development versions causes cancer, brings 20 year of unluck on your family and kills kittens by thousands. People wo use graphics software professionally tend to use apps that produce _repeatedly_ consistent output. in

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> …or get a fork and… ;) > > ...a knife and have a good meal. > > The only fork of GIMP that really survived is Seashore. It's targeted > at an essentially different group of users. There's also cinepaint that was geared for movie wor

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Bogdan Szczurek
W dniu 11-11-10 11:07, Alexandre Prokoudine pisze: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Bogdan Szczurek wrote: -- cut -- Offended by the splash screen? Draw a better one. Want GIMP to be better recognized? Start producing awesome art with it. Sorry to see lack of hi-end features? Get involved with

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Bogdan Szczurek wrote: > -- cut -- > >> Offended by the splash screen? Draw a better one. >> Want GIMP to be better recognized? Start producing awesome art with it. >> Sorry to see lack of hi-end features? Get involved with development. > > -- cut -- > > …or get a f

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Bogdan Szczurek
-- cut -- Offended by the splash screen? Draw a better one. Want GIMP to be better recognized? Start producing awesome art with it. Sorry to see lack of hi-end features? Get involved with development. -- cut -- …or get a fork and… ;) Bless TB ___ g

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Aleksandar Kovac wrote: > "It's only a dev version, general users won't see it." is a lame excuse on > many levels. Is there 'us' and 'them' in open source? Come on, you are smarter than that. Of course there is "us" and "them". Using development versions causes

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting the recognition that GIMP deserves

2011-11-10 Thread Alexia Death
Hi all! I drew the cage splash:P I drew it because some people were just not getting the clue about us not changing the name and well, the cage tool got merged. Synergy. Quote: "It's only a dev version, general users won't see it." is a lame excuse on many levels. Is there 'us' and 'them' in ope