Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Michael Grosberg
Markus Heiler gmail.com> writes: > > - What other image-editor can I use on Linux? pixlr. It's a web app, not a standalone app. But it's pretty awesome. It may not have ALL the features Gimp has, but it also has some it doesn't, such as layer styles or some basic shape drawing options. You can

Re: [Gimp-developer] Cage-Tool performance

2012-05-17 Thread Anke Lange
ups - the second picture-link was wrong http://ws.kreativ-workshops.net/gimp2-8/einst/screens/bild386.png Am 18.05.2012 08:44, schrieb Anke Lange: Hi First of all it is a great tool! And I love it. but I found some strange behaviour, so before I start a new bugreport, I wanted to ask you, if

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Michael Grosberg
Jason Simanek gmail.com> writes: > This is getting old. All they gotta do is go use some other FREE > graphics application. Most of these complaints could be addressed by > simply changing their keyboard shortcuts to use the "overwrite" > command instead. I always change about 60% of the Gimp sho

[Gimp-developer] Cage-Tool performance

2012-05-17 Thread Anke Lange
Hi First of all it is a great tool! And I love it. but I found some strange behaviour, so before I start a new bugreport, I wanted to ask you, if this is a bug or just something that's got to do with my system (Linux Xubuntu) First: when I made a cage and want to adjust the knots, I can't. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Malix
One thing that can be useful for who does not read release notes is a tip that appear when an image opened from a format different by xfc is saved. The tip can be: "Gimp now save images as xfc internal format. If you want to save in different format use Export. If you want save in the original form

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Michael Natterer
On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 22:49 -0400, Nicolas Robidoux wrote: > I agree that Import/Save/Export is likely to make complete sense to > the target user of GIMP 2.10. > I also have the impression that it may be quite effective at informing > soon-to-be-former-users that they are not members of the target

Re: [Gimp-developer] Targeted audience of GIMP?

2012-05-17 Thread Srihari Sriraman
Bump. I'd love to know the answer to this too... And maybe an experienced developer could write an article about their inference of the product vision, which would prove to be helpful for new developers. Somehow those 6 lines seem too abstract to me. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:43 AM, gfxuser wrot

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Martin Nordholts
2012/5/17 Markus Heiler : > It now, hmm, forces me to store in a super awesome cool format... > called xfccxghgf The reason is that 1. Open file 2. Make changes 3. Save and close file 4. Open the saved file again should be a non-destructive operation. In GIMP 2.6, this was not the case, so we ha

[Gimp-developer] Targeted audience of GIMP?

2012-05-17 Thread gfxuser
Hi, the last thread reminded me of a question, which I had for some longer and I couldn't find the right answer yet: Who is the targeted audience of GIMP? Reading the product vision and the document 'GIMP 2.8 understanding UI changes' I don't see a clear definition of that, but only two group

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Graeme Gill
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > I suggest you actually try GIMP 2.6 or even 2.4. Personally I don't > see a constructive discussion arising from assumptions that have > nothing to do with actual state of affairs. GIMP had been I'm not making assumptions, I'm stating the admitted (by the Gimp develop

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Nicolas Robidoux wrote: > I also have the impression that it may be quite effective at informing > soon-to-be-former-users that they are not members of the target club. Well, calling it a club would certainly give people the wrong idea. Targeting doesn't really eq

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Nicolas Robidoux
I agree that Import/Save/Export is likely to make complete sense to the target user of GIMP 2.10. I also have the impression that it may be quite effective at informing soon-to-be-former-users that they are not members of the target club. ___ gimp-develop

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Graeme Gill wrote: > gg wrote: >> Indeed, but he does have a point. I also find this export jive to be >> contrived. If I "open" a file >> and then save it I expect it to be the same file not something else. > > It's completely contrived, to work around the technic

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Graeme Gill
gg wrote: > Indeed, but he does have a point. I also find this export jive to be > contrived. If I "open" a file > and then save it I expect it to be the same file not something else. It's completely contrived, to work around the technical limitation that Gimp doesn't track what features are use

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Nicolas Robidoux
A long time ago, I suggested "save workspace" (to XCF) VS "save image" (into a "standard" image format, like png, ideally chosen with some awareness of past actions or the format of the main ingredients of the current image). ___ gimp-developer-list maili

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
>> The comparison to GNOME is interesting. That project has a long time >> reputation of being feature Nazis. They know best and anyone who does not >> agree is just wrong. The job of a user interaction architect does not involve pleasing every living creature out there. What it does involve is li

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Jason Simanek
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote: > On 12-05-17 06:10 PM, Jason Simanek wrote: >> Most of these complaints could be addressed by >> simply changing their keyboard shortcuts to use the "overwrite" >> command instead. > > So you are saying that in order to "work around" the change

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:18 AM, gg wrote: > It seems someone thought that xcf was not getting enough air time and that > everyone "should" be using it. If this is a funny conspiracy theories contest, I'm game! :) > The comparison to GNOME is interesting. That project has a long time > reputatio

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Christopher Curtis
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:18 PM, gg wrote: > On 05/17/12 23:04, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Markus Heiler wrote: >> >> Please, I would like the gimp overlords to recommend to all average >>> joes out there what we shall use from now on. >>> >> >> The humour

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-05-17 06:10 PM, Jason Simanek wrote: This is getting old. I'm sure it will get even older. :-) Most of these complaints could be addressed by simply changing their keyboard shortcuts to use the "overwrite" command instead. So you are saying that in order to "work around" the change we

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread gg
On 05/17/12 23:04, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Markus Heiler wrote: So my question actually is: - What other image-editor can I use on Linux? Pinta, Krita. Please, I would like the gimp overlords to recommend to all average joes out there what we shall use

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Jason Simanek
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Markus Heiler wrote: > I can see that my Gimp Overlords have also decided to gnomify Gimp. > > I think that was a good move. We need to treat all users as potential idiots. This is getting old. All they gotta do is go use some other FREE graphics application. Most

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread foser
What a trip. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Markus Heiler wrote: > So my question actually is: > > - What other image-editor can I use on Linux? Pinta, Krita. > Please, I would like the gimp overlords to recommend to all average > joes out there what we shall use from now on. The humour is strong with th

[Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8.0 - Saving in .jpg or .png hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Markus Heiler
Greetings my Gimp Overlords, I have lately tried the new and shiny Gimp 2.8.0 in anticipation of the all the praised greatness that was to come. And the world was good for it seemed wonderful! Until I tried to save my .jpg image into a .png It now, hmm, forces me to store in a super awesom

[Gimp-developer] How to setup height of GTK-slider-widget in GIMP?

2012-05-17 Thread bart
Hello, is there a way to setup the height of the GTK-slider-widget (like for opacity of a layer) in GIMP via a .rc file? I didn't use a tablet and the new sliders consume a lot of space. Thanks. Bart. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-dev

Re: [Gimp-developer] hesitant about compiling a list...

2012-05-17 Thread gfxuser
Hi Peter, my opinion is 'the clearer the better'. Such a list could IMHO improve GIMPs product quality. Even if it will be a long list (and it will be growing, as user requirements and wishes always become more) this will show the necessity to priorize. I'm not (or not yet) a GIMP developer, bu

Re: [Gimp-developer] hesitant about compiling a list...

2012-05-17 Thread Nicolas Robidoux
How about you start your list with issues that are at least 18 months old? ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list

[Gimp-developer] hesitant about compiling a list...

2012-05-17 Thread peter sikking
guys, a couple of days ago Bruce appeared on irc and we had a chat. (Bruce is now subscribed to this list) within a minute we were talking about whether GIMP has a list of known UI design issues. as far as I know we do not have one, it is certainly not part of gui.gimp.org. (I am not talking abo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Liquid rescale

2012-05-17 Thread peter sikking
gfxuser wrote: > I read the news about Liquid rescale's UI redesign at GIMP's main site and > Peter's blog. It looks very promising. Especially I like team's no. 3 results. > Are there plans to take these changes over to the current plugin and/or make > Liquid rescale an official tool/plugin of

[Gimp-developer] Liquid rescale

2012-05-17 Thread gfxuser
Hi, I read the news about Liquid rescale's UI redesign at GIMP's main site and Peter's blog. It looks very promising. Especially I like team's no. 3 results. Are there plans to take these changes over to the current plugin and/or make Liquid rescale an official tool/plugin of GIMP? One thing