Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Malix
May be I shot too high on porting everything to Qt. But someone else thing that cmake is way better than autohell. I learn autotools when I try to work on Pgadmin and this really discourage me, instead I had a great experience with cmake when I made a Kate plugin. I needed to add just a line of cod

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:55:48 +0300 > From: shlo...@shlomifish.org > To: parth...@gmail.com > CC: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt > > Hi Partha, > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:22:35 -0400 > Partha Bagchi wrote: > > > On Sun, Ju

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-07-29 06:21 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's developers that CMake will be available in addition or instead of GNU Autotools (so I won't work for naught). My one expo

Re: [Gimp-developer] self-compiled git gimp 2.9 complains about old babl version

2012-07-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, July 28, 2012, 23:54:31, Guiu Rocafort wrote: > Any idea about what can be wrong ? If you compiled babl yourself, it probably ended up in /usr/local/lib, which is searched after /usr/lib - try running GIMP from terminal like this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib gimp-2.9 -- < Jerne

Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: self-compiled git gimp 2.9 complains about old babl version

2012-07-29 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-07-29 06:47 AM, Guiu Rocafort wrote: It seems like having made a compiling from git and an "sudo make install" installed the new versions of babl and gegl, but the package manager doesn't noticed that and still thinks i have the previous version installed. Does that make sense ? Any idea of

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:11:20 +0200 Malix wrote: > I already know that this post will generate a lot of flames. Next step of > the project is the porting of the code to Gtk 3, why instead not switching > away from gtk and go with Qt? And also leave autohell and switch to make? > > You can think t

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 14:57:17, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > Just chipping in with some actual information: cmake does support > cross-compiling quite well. See > http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_Cross_Compiling. This looks very complicated compared to ./configure --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32 that

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Isaac Wagner
Autotools may be unpleasant to learn, but once it works, it works, and it works well for GIMP. If you were starting a new project then you might have grounds to think about picking an easier build tool, but why throw away all the work already put into GIMP's use of autotools because autotools is to

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Partha Bagchi wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> >>> On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: >>> CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so u

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Partha Bagchi wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so unless you meant GNU Automake, that's not the issue. CMake can also generate

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: > >> CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so unless you >> meant >> GNU Automake, that's not the issue. CMake can also generate project files for >> other IDEs a

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: > CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so unless you > meant > GNU Automake, that's not the issue. CMake can also generate project files for > other IDEs and support some other build-systems, all from the same sources,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: self-compiled git gimp 2.9 complains about old babl version

2012-07-29 Thread trapDoor
Whatever distro you work on, the package manager won't notice your installation if you made it by 'make install' in the project's source code. The package manager will see only applications installed as packages (eg deb on debian/ubuntu/mint or rpm on fefora/centos etc). Now if you still see old ba

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 02:51:44PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Do we need to change to CMake? Nobody has given > > reasons so far, just assumed that we'd like to switch to CMake. It > > would substitute one hell for another. > > Well, I have given many reasons here: > > http://www.shlomifish.

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Mukund, On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:39:19 +0530 Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > Hi Shlomi > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to > > CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's develop

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Partha, On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:22:35 -0400 Partha Bagchi wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > > Hi Shlomi > > > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: > >> In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to > >> CM

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp for casual users

2012-07-29 Thread peter sikking
Andreas Lemke wrote: > I didn't mean to imply it is a fully controlled, scientifically valid study. I am not asking for any of that. I work now 19 years in user interaction, in the software industry. all of that highly practical and unscientific, just create software that (for once) does not suck

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > Hi Shlomi > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: >> In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to >> CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's developers that >> CMake

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Shlomi On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: > In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to > CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's developers that > CMake will be available in addition or instead of GNU Autotools (so I wo

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all, On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:44:21 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Malix wrote: > > > I already know that this post will generate a lot of flames. > > But you do it anyway? > > > Next step of the project is the porting of the code to Gtk 3 > > It starte

Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: self-compiled git gimp 2.9 complains about old babl version

2012-07-29 Thread Guiu Rocafort
> > Hi, > did you compile manually babl (and gegl) before compiling gimp? That's > the best way to build the whole 'gimp environment' cause you get not > only fresh gimp but also its crucial dependencies. Yes, I've compiled them myself. Both of them were taken from the git repository directly.I a

[Gimp-developer] Fwd: self-compiled git gimp 2.9 complains about old babl version

2012-07-29 Thread trapDoor
forgot to cc the gimp-developer ml.. -- Forwarded message -- From: trapDoor Date: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] self-compiled git gimp 2.9 complains about old babl version To: Guiu Rocafort Hi, did you compile manually babl (and gegl) before compi

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp for casual users

2012-07-29 Thread Guiu Rocafort
> > Maybe in our community, others are willing to contribute more experiments > in a true open source effort. If there is interest, I might do more myself. What about doing a "template" with certain conditions and rules that allows anyone to repeat the experiment made by andreas ? I would be able

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp for casual users

2012-07-29 Thread Andreas Lemke
Hi Peter, I didn't mean to imply it is a fully controlled, scientifically valid study. So let's call it an experiment. Just a single data point. As such it doesn't prove anything. But it can be the beginning of more solid work. Maybe in our community, others are willing to contribute more exp