Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Gez
El lun, 17-11-2014 a las 21:19 -0500, Michael Henning escribió: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Gez wrote: > > If chromaticity independent RGB operations request for bablRGB or > > userRGB doesn't seem a mere implementation detail. I think it's a valid > > question to ask why requesting for bab

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Henning
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Gez wrote: > If chromaticity independent RGB operations request for bablRGB or > userRGB doesn't seem a mere implementation detail. I think it's a valid > question to ask why requesting for bablRGB when the mechanism for > userRGB will be available. > > > Could you

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Gez
El lun, 17-11-2014 a las 23:41 +0100, Mikael Magnusson escribió: > The above two things are implementation details as Simon said. If you > don't understand this, then please don't write long articles full of > misinformation that get widely quoted. Your answers suggest you didn't > even understand

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Gez
El mar, 18-11-2014 a las 00:32 +, Ed . escribió: > Elle, > > If you don't understand the difference between a design detail, and > an > implementation detail, you need to either a) go away and get to > understand > that difference; or b) stop commenting. I am neutral as to which you > choose

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Ed .
Elle, If you don't understand the difference between a design detail, and an implementation detail, you need to either a) go away and get to understand that difference; or b) stop commenting. I am neutral as to which you choose. Ed -Original Message- From: Elle Stone Sent: Monday,

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Simon Budig wrote: > If there were chromaticies for a given "userRGB" which are widely used > in a lot of real world applications, then it might make sense to support > them in a similiar way like we currently do for the sRGB primaries. Nah, we only need one unbo

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Simon Budig
Elle Stone (ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com) wrote: > >A slight preface here. I don't consider it important to focus on the > >*storage* of the pixel data, as in the actual bulk memory for the pixel > >data. > > If you choose to *store* the user's RGB data using chromaticities not of > user's choos

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/17/2014 05:41 PM, Mikael Magnusson wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Elle Stone wrote: On 11/17/2014 10:46 AM, Simon Budig wrote: I don't think that this is decided yet, I actually consider it unlikely at the moment. I think it might be more likely to have it sitting in memory a

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Mikael Magnusson
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Elle Stone wrote: > On 11/17/2014 10:46 AM, Simon Budig wrote: >> >> Hi Elle. >> >> The following is my understanding, when pippin answers his answers have >> more authority than mine. > > > Hi Simon, > > I appreciate your answers, but the points you make aren't a

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/17/2014 10:46 AM, Simon Budig wrote: Hi Elle. The following is my understanding, when pippin answers his answers have more authority than mine. Hi Simon, I appreciate your answers, but the points you make aren't actually relevant to the questions that I wanted to ask Pippin. This is my

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Simon Budig
Hi Elle. The following is my understanding, when pippin answers his answers have more authority than mine. Elle Stone (ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com) wrote: > Putting aside coding considerations that might affect other software that > uses babl and GEGL, here's my understanding of your current p

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-17 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/16/2014 05:18 PM, Øyvind Kolås wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Elle Stone wrote: Do you understand that when I say that Multiply is a chromaticity-dependent editing operation, I don't just mean the Multiply layer blend mode? that in fact *all* editing operations that use multiplic