Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] GIMP should fork babl and GEGL

2014-11-05 Thread Michael Bauer
Not to mention the extra work created for localizers if they have to maintain two forks... it would be like the OpenOffice / LibreOffice mess. I must admit I understand very little about the technical arguments put forth in this debate but from the localizer (and to a certain extent end-user)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Texttool Native Language

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Bauer
Ok, I have filed https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737582 for the Kotoeri issue and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737583 for the Pinyin issue Please feel free to amend, I'm not a developer. Best, Michael 28/09/2014 19:04, sgrìobh gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Texttool Native Language

2014-09-28 Thread Michael Bauer
Ok, mystery solved, bug confirmed. Kotoeri is the default IME on OSX for Japanese, it offers, amongst other things, Latin to Kana/Kanji conversion. This is what should happen: 1 Go to settings and add Japanese as a language, ensure that under input sources for kotoeri Romaji (i.e. Latin) is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Texttool Native Language

2014-09-28 Thread Michael Bauer
28/09/2014 16:52, sgrìobh Jehan Pagès: Ok so the problem was not that Partha did not know how to use an input method to output Japanese, it was that he knew how, but that it worked everywhere but in GIMP? That was not clear. That was a little confused indeed but I can see how CJK typography is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Texttool Native Language

2014-09-28 Thread Michael Bauer
Regarding Chinese: I tested Pinyin (stupid machine can't do Cantonese, bah) and it sort of works. You start typing Pinyin and the suggestions window pops up and displays the different suggestions and inserts them correctly. What does not work well is the alignment. In other programs (again,

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX - solution

2014-09-21 Thread Michael Bauer
Ok, good news, between the indomitable Partha and myself (mostly Partha, I was just testing), we managed to identify the problem and Partha was able to fix it and provide a working build. Fault finding eventually got us to running $ locale which on my machine resulted in LANG and LC_ALL

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Bauer
17/09/2014 13:00, sgrìobh gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org: In both cases, the App menu shows mixed languages: the primary one from System Preferences and the user selected one well? I?m still not convinced. Why? Every supported OS X language is automatically detected, if there?s a

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Bauer
Yes, sorry, Dyirbal was the wrong language, I meant Pitjantjatjara actually but I had just read something (unrelated) regarding Dyirbal and got wires crossed in my brain. Michael 16/09/2014 13:00, sgrìobh gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org: Certainly been an interesting topic, and I was

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-15 Thread Michael Bauer
Well, for those whose locales are supported, that still removes user control over the UI language. Not a good idea. But the really big problem is for locales not supported by the OS, many medium to small locales fall into this category. If someone localizes GIMP into, for the sake of

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-12 Thread Michael Bauer
I have two locales under System Preferences Language Region: Gàidhlig (Scottish Gaelic) English I've tried a few other pemutations and there's some odd stuff going on. First, no matter which locale I set, it only ever shows 2 in the dropdown. I tried German, which brings up GIMP in German

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-12 Thread Michael Bauer
The outcome is still the same, only 2 locales shown (Default and English) and it comes up in English either way :/ Michael 12/09/2014 13:33, sgrìobh Partha Bagchi: I updated 2.8.14 McGimp last night to include the language codes. Could you please re-download and test that your language (in

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-12 Thread Michael Bauer
Here's all of the log: Executing Gimp 2.8 at DATE: 2014-09-12 TIME: 13:44:40 Dir is /Applications/Gimp-2.8.app/Contents/MacOS Appdir is /Applications/Gimp-2.8.app Could not remove /tmp/pb2.8 ls: /tmp/pb2.8: No such file or directory Linking /Applications/Gimp-2.8.app to /pb2.8 ... ... Done

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi Michael Thanks. On my slightly older MacBook (which has a version of OSX which does not support gd at all) I have the same problem, only [System language] and [English] are on offer. I borrowed a friend's newer Mac where you can set gd as the locale (though it doesn't actually change the

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Bauer
11/09/2014 11:35, sgrìobh Partha Bagchi: Michael B., I am confused. Which version of OSX do you have? My version supports Snow Leopard to Yosemite. My older machine is on Leopard, the newer one is running Mavericks I just checked and here is a screenshot from 2.8.14 (I am running

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-10 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi Partha, Thanks for that... it installed ok but I feel like I'm about to go through a why-oh-why moment (not your fault). So I installed it, it comes up in English, so I go the the UI option where, hooray, I find a Language option. Immediately followed by a groan because it offers me

Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.8.12 released (Michael Natterer)

2014-08-27 Thread Michael Bauer
27/08/2014 14:39, sgrìobh Jehan Pagès: Hi, On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: Well actually you were in the list of contributors in the release email, but under the name akerbeltz (the before last name). I assume this is indeed you, since this corresponds

Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.8.12 released (Michael Natterer)

2014-08-26 Thread Michael Bauer
Hm missing from that list - not really a problem as long as that doesn't mean Scots Gaelic has been missed out of the release (haven't had time to install yet) Michael 26/08/2014 08:35, sgrìobh gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org: Andr? Schutten, Aurimas ?ernius, Bal?zs ?r, Christian

Re: [Gimp-developer] Wee reminder about Gaelic in 2.10

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Bauer
Thankyouthankyouthankyou!! Michael 19/05/2014 13:00, sgrìobh gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org: Hi, good news also for the Mac users: I fixed the bug that GIMP only showed 'EN' and 'System language' in the language selector list. It's currently in the 'osx-build' branch which is planned

[Gimp-developer] Wee reminder about Gaelic in 2.10

2014-05-18 Thread Michael Bauer
Hiya I don't know how the plans for 2.8.12 are progressing but I just thought I'd ask someone please make sure Scottish Gaelic (gd) gets added to the UI language menu in the settings? Perhaps I'm over-cautious but on VLC they managed to 'forget' Gaelic in TWO releases and since few people

Re: [Gimp-developer] Wee reminder about Gaelic in 2.10

2014-05-18 Thread Michael Bauer
w00t! Thanks for checking! Michael 18/05/2014 14:39, sgrìobh Michael Henning: Don't worry. Gaelic is already available in the UI in the development branch of 2.8. Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/LT64AtO.png -- drawoc -- *Akerbeltz http://www.faclair.com/* Goireasan Gàidhlig air

[Gimp-developer] Question about 2.8.11

2014-03-11 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi I'm going to a school tomorrow to advise them on using open software in our language. I'd like to include GIMP in the equation but it would be helpful if I could have a very rough idea about when our language is likely to get released (localization completed and in the repo as of ~3 weeks

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about 2.8.11

2014-03-11 Thread Michael Bauer
11/03/2014 14:12, sgrìobh Michael Natterer: Odd micro version are git versions, there is no release with .11 Even micro versions are tarball releases, the next one will be 2.8.12 Mmmm I'm mainly a localizer, I have to admit I didn't understood most of that but .11 was just me working off the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about 2.8.11

2014-03-11 Thread Michael Bauer
Paka was right though, I should have mentioned, sorry! Michael 11/03/2014 23:54, sgrìobh gimp-developer-list-requ...@gnome.org: We already know Michael:) He's our Scottish Gaelic guy:) Alexandre -- *Akerbeltz http://www.faclair.com/* Goireasan Gàidhlig air an lìon Fòn: +44-141-946 4437

[Gimp-developer] Releasing a new locale?

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Bauer
I've asked before but maybe it got missed because it was a double-barrel question. I've completed the main UI translation into Scottish Gaelic (gd) and done some of the other ancillary files. What's the process for making sure this gets released? Cheers Michael

Re: [Gimp-developer] Releasing a new locale?

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Bauer
LOL well the po is there (https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/po I assume?) but I have no idea about where to find the mo's Cheers Michael 25/02/2014 17:25, sgrìobh Alexandre: Pushing your PO files to Git and admiring the sheer badassity of what you've accomplished:) Seriously, once the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Releasing a new locale?

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Bauer
I have one of each (Windows, Mac and Linux) actually but yes, my main machine is Windows. Thanks for checking and I look forward to seeing it at the next stable! Cheers Michael 25/02/2014 21:00, sgrìobh Alexandre: You probably are a Windows user then:) But no worries, binary translation

[Gimp-developer] Commit issues

2014-02-07 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi I have two (new) issues. The first one is probably routine. I've completed the 2.8 po file but it's now complaining that this language is not in the LINGUAS file: https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gimp/gimp-2-8/po/gd I'm guessing this is something an admin has to add? The other one seems

Re: [Gimp-developer] Release and translation of textures

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Bauer
06/02/2014 11:40, sgrìobh Alexandre Prokoudine: Not that I know. Pity but at least I know, thanks! First of all, master == 2.10 :) There is no branch for 2.10 yet, and there probably won't be any time soon. Ok Secondly, I wouldn't recommend translating master at all, unless you enjoy doing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Release and translation of textures

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Bauer
No, I didn't, thanks for mentioning it, I'm mostly a (very good) translator but not very good at code. There are a lot more people who are good at translating than people who can do both, sadly. Michael 06/02/2014 11:51, sgrìobh Alexandre Prokoudine: Yes, once the translation is there, it

[Gimp-developer] Release and translation of textures

2014-02-04 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi, Two questions - I've got the main UI translation for Gaelic (gd) at 97% (some strings I need to check in context) but I was wondering at this point what the process for getting a new locale into release is? Is it automatic or do I need to file a bug and go through a release process? The

[Gimp-developer] Changing order of placeholders

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi I'm working on the Gaelic localization of the GIMP and I've run into the problem of having to re-order the placeholders in strings with multiple placeholders. I cannot find a format the GNOME will accept - I tried %2$s %1$s etc, then %$2s %$1s, no luck, then %2s %1s etc but still I get an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Changing order of placeholders

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Bauer
Then try this: Tha a' phongalachd \%3$s\ aig an dealbh \%1$s\ (%2$d) ach tha dùil ris a' phongalachd \%4$s\ I did, still getting .po file does not pass 'msgfmt -vc'. Please correct the file and try again. (where I am unsure if 3 and 4 are in the right order - I currently can't even guess

Re: [Gimp-developer] Changing order of placeholders

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Bauer
PS I forgot to say, if I remove the string entirely, it uploads without problem, so it's definitely this one causing the issue Michael 30/01/2014 10:53, sgrìobh Simon Budig: Then try this: Tha a' phongalachd \%3$s\ aig an dealbh \%1$s\ (%2$d) ach tha dùil ris a' phongalachd \%4$s\

Re: [Gimp-developer] Changing order of placeholders

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Bauer
Does that mean it's a GNOME problem, rather than an error in the way I'm doing the re-ordering? Michael 30/01/2014 13:25, sgrìobh Michael Natterer: Hi Mitch, Unless we've gotten the wrong end of the stick completely, we came to the conclusion that GNOME is the central repo for handling GIMP