On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Pat David wrote:
>> Performance is an issue though. I'm a bit appalled that 4 or 5 seconds
>> for "above the fold" seems to be OK. But I'm a late intro to this
>> discussion, so maybe I'm off base.
>
>
> 4-5 seconds for above the fold content is _not_ ok. It's al
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:01 PM Chris Mohler wrote:
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> Derailer here - asking for a webfont to be loaded is no less or more
> secure than asking for an image to be loaded. In other words, simply
> loading any web page is probably going to require loading external
> resources to render properly
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 23:01 -0600, Chris Mohler wrote:
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[...]
> Performance is an issue though. I'm a bit appalled that 4 or 5
> seconds for "above the fold" seems to be OK.
It's much faster than that here, and we have a below-average 1.5MBps
connection at home.
Liam
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Elle Stone
wrote:
>> If someone is going to purposefully block content (whatever the reason),
>> then they should expect things to not look as designed (but should still
>> be functional). I think we're covering that.
>>
>>
>> Nice fonts are nice to see. But d
On 11/23/2015 04:50 PM, Pat David wrote:
Hi!
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:23 PM Elle Stone
mailto:ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com>>
wrote:
Well, now I feel silly - other than Wilbur and the download icon, I
didn't realize that the items beside the other links were icons instead
of placeh
Hi!
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:23 PM Elle Stone
wrote:
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> You are asking people to trust that the GIMP website hasn't been and
> never will be compromised and therefore it's OK to trust whatever
> "stuff" that might be downloaded.
>
Nope! I'm telling you that if you block certain types of cont
On 11/23/2015 02:28 PM, Pat David wrote:
If someone is going to purposefully block content (whatever the reason),
then they should expect things to not look as designed (but should still
be functional). I think we're covering that.
Nice fonts are nice to see. But downloading fonts and suc
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:05 PM Elle Stone
wrote:
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> Javascript and "objects":
>
> Hmm, you might be right about "just disabling javascript" and leaving
> everything else allowed. However, I don't just block javascript when I
> browse the web. Other stuff, including "objects", which includes the
Sorry, this was a double post, didn't realize I'd already sent the other
post on the same topic.
On 11/23/2015 02:13 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
On 11/23/2015 11:06 AM, Pat David wrote:
I have scripting turned off and the top navigation header renders just
fine. So I cannot replicate this. Could y
On 11/23/2015 11:06 AM, Pat David wrote:
I have scripting turned off and the top navigation header renders just
fine. So I cannot replicate this. Could you please elaborate on what
you are doing to trigger this behavior, and verify that it is correct?
Hmm, until today I never saw the navigati
On 11/23/2015 12:06 PM, Pat David wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 3:18 PM Elle Stone
All pages: The site requires javascript enabled to display the icons at
the bottom of the page. Otherwise, except for the GIMP icon, the icons
are just place-holders.
Some people consider
On 11/23/2015 11:06 AM, Pat David wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 7:01 AM Elle Stone
mailto:ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com>>
wrote:
I stand corrected. There is a header at the top of each page, with
Wilber in the header. But the user must enable scripts to see the
header.
I have scr
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:24 AM Elle Stone
wrote:
> I would suggest changing whatever it takes to give the "GIMP for DTP"
> section equal or even less than the visual weight and space given to
> using GIMP for editing photographs, digital painting, etc.
>
Noted.
Yes, I will have a look at it, but honestly feel that it's not so obtrusive
the way it is right now. I originally had the attribution with the images
themselves, which I may look at redoing again sometime soon.
I may also not want a tooltip popping up with the cursor on hover.
On Mon, Nov 23, 20
On 11/23/2015 12:06 PM, Pat David wrote:
We could, but this does rely on CSS animations, which I can't assume
everyone has available (IE8-9 don't for instance). I can look into
possibly showing something like that, but for now I'm going to keep the
attributions plainly visible for the authors.
Bear in mind that we are only just now beginning to address content that
was not new prior to the transition to the new infrastructure. I'll
address those things as best as I can.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 3:18 PM Elle Stone
wrote:
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> Some comments, fwiw:
>
> The Home page (http://static.gimp.or
Elle,
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 7:01 AM Elle Stone
wrote:
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> I stand corrected. There is a header at the top of each page, with
> Wilber in the header. But the user must enable scripts to see the header.
>
>
I have scripting turned off and the top navigation header renders just
fine. So I cannot
Elle Stone writes:
> I stand corrected. There is a header at the top of each page, with Wilber in
> the header. But the user must enable scripts to see the header.
Even with scripts, it's tough to tell that icon is actually Wilber.
It's so small that the eyes aren't identifiable as eyes, and the
"
On 11/21/2015 07:44 AM, Elle Stone wrote:
* Wilber is on the new home page, but he's sort of lost against the
background image at the top, and he's missing from the other pages. It
would help with branding if Wilber were prominently visible at the top
of every page.
* There's no "identifying
Branding:
The new website has a lot going for it. The font is larger and easier to
read. The website layout seems more spacious. It looks more "modern", if
that makes sense. I suspect it will be easier to maintain.
But something about the new website has seemed odd to me from the
beginning.
Page loading speed:
Starting from an empty cache, http://static.gimp.org/ takes a slow count
of four to six seconds before the above-the-fold content finishes
loading. The picture at the top is the last item to load.
I have a relatively slow internet connection (cable, but not "high speed
do
On 11/20/2015 09:27 AM, Pat David wrote:
I'm afk for most of the day today, with sporadic phone connectivity. I'll
do my best to address any questions. Anything more complex will have to
wait until the evening here (-06:00UTC).
Some comments, fwiw:
The Home page (http://static.gimp.org/):
1
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Pat David wrote:
> I'm afk for most of the day today, with sporadic phone connectivity. I'll
> do my best to address any questions. Anything more complex will have to
> wait until the evening here (-06:00UTC).
>
> The new site SGO (http://static.gimp.org) is ready
I'm afk for most of the day today, with sporadic phone connectivity. I'll
do my best to address any questions. Anything more complex will have to
wait until the evening here (-06:00UTC).
The new site SGO (http://static.gimp.org) is ready to be migrated whenever
it's needed. I have also put a si
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