Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
2012/1/26 peter sikking > < > http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/02/25/breathtaking-typographic-posters/ > > > > let's be honest and say that every one of these that look > super clean are better made in inkscape & co. > > but everywhere where there is at least a bit of grunge, > texture, yes,

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread Srihari Sriraman
Text, for me, is sometimes everything in the design. Sometimes when I'm designing a brochure or any ad, i start by placing text. The font, size, style... these are the prime focus. Just black text... and some lines... these complete the skeleton of the design. Then comes the art work. Sometimes,

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread peter sikking
Guillermo Espertino wrote: > ...and the link: > http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/03/04/50-stunning-photoshop-text-effect-tutorials/ oh, yes that also helps. going through it right now. for instance this one gets the artwork-driven-by-type argument across:

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
...and the link: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/03/04/50-stunning-photoshop-text-effect-tutorials/ :-) ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
As a graphic designer I always need text. I'm doing most of my text work in inkscape not because text doesn't belong to image manipulation, but because now it's impossible to get a good workflow, including: - Fine grained control over type properties and text layout - Non-destructive transforms (i.

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread peter sikking
wow, Thorsten Wilms' reply is exactly the type of information I am looking for. > I could see myself using text in GIMP for > - text in mockups > - annotations > - as integral part of ... poster design > > For mockups, I prefer Inkscape, these days. GIMP only wins for some > modifications of sc

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 01/26/2012 12:03 PM, peter sikking wrote: ‘text never is the main purpose in GIMP work (like it is in scribus or libreOffice writer), it only plays a supporting role within a graphical work’ I could see myself using text in GIMP for - text in mockups - annotations - as integral part of ...

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, peter sikking wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2012, at 12:06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, peter sikking wrote: >> >>> let's see if I can stimulate this a bit. within the UI team we >>> are discussing about the following: >>> >>> ‘text ne

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:16 PM, peter sikking wrote: >> I must have died and come to hell. In graphic design it's equally >> important to images. > > now we are getting somewhere. please elaborate a bit. E.g. if you do a poster, text is an essential part of the whole work, because it transmits i

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread Dominique Schmidt
In this regard i'd like to get an opinion on where text is located between vector and pixel work. afaik a lot of graphic design starts with the former and gets it's finishing in the pixel-level tool On 26 January 2012 12:16, peter sikking wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2012, at 12:06, Alexandre Prokoudin

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread peter sikking
On Jan 26, 2012, at 12:06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, peter sikking wrote: > >> let's see if I can stimulate this a bit. within the UI team we >> are discussing about the following: >> >> ‘text never is the main purpose in GIMP work (like it is in scribus >>

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, peter sikking wrote: > let's see if I can stimulate this a bit. within the UI team we > are discussing about the following: > > ‘text never is the main purpose in GIMP work (like it is in scribus > or libreOffice writer), it only plays a supporting role within > a

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-26 Thread peter sikking
hey guys, another attempt at having a discussion about text in GIMP work. although it was useful to read about features, niggles and going to other apps to work with text (the latter being a huge smoking gun for GIMP), it was not what I was looking for. I was looking for what text means in the c

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-19 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
2012/1/19 Øyvind Kolås > > > Being able to edit text, with a halo, drop-shadow or other > non-destructive automatically updated effect that provides contrast > against most backgrounds can be both tacky, and useful. It is possible > to achieve such things with GIMP today but it is laborsome and w

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-19 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Akkana Peck wrote: > peter sikking writes: >> so please help us by replying here, with you answer what >> text means to you when working with GIMP. > > - play around with the size, color, and font face until it looks good Being able to edit text, with a halo, drop

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-18 Thread Akkana Peck
peter sikking writes: > so please help us by replying here, with you answer what > text means to you when working with GIMP. My most common use case for text: adding text to a photo for something like a greeting card or a poster, sometimes intended for the web and sometimes for print. So I start w

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-17 Thread Jim Michaels
what version of the source has the repaired text tool? > > From: "gespert...@gmail.com" >To: peter sikking >Cc: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org >Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:05 AM >Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-15 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
This would be also a good oportunity to introduce OpenType advanced features, like alternates, swashes, old figures, etc.) Some type features may seem out of the scope of an image manipulation program like GIMP, but advanced typography is not only relevant to page layout. There are several simple

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-14 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Samstag, 14. Januar 2012 schrub gespert...@gmail.com: [...] > Maybe this is a long shot, but let me try. > Since type tools in GTK applications (GIMP, Inkscape, etc) suffer > usually from the same issues, what if instead of developing a type > tool for GIMP you design a comprehensive type sele

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-14 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
2012/1/14 Alexandre Prokoudine : > Speaking of which, there is another thing I absolutely hate about the > current implementation. > > It's how GIMP currently treats font faces. First of all, it lists all > faces anyway, even though it already has bold/italic buttons to > toggle. So when you (acci

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Simon Budig wrote: > On the specific topic: I think we need to look at the needs for > relatively big fonts and short texts (think "headlines"). > > This means we need good support for microtypography (sub-pixel kerning > anyone?) and advanced open type features. T

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-14 Thread Simon Budig
peter sikking (pe...@mmiworks.net) wrote: > ps: I think mitch and nomis are the two developers most interested > in this topic, and we would like to sit down soon with them to > hash out a vision for text(tool) in GIMP, based on what we can > distill out of this survey. I am interested very much i

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Natterer
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 20:24 +0100, Michael Natterer wrote: > Hi Jay, > > all of that, apart from rotating while staying editable, > is implemented and will be in gimp 2.8. > > --mitch > > On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 14:11 -0500, Jay Smith wrote: > > On 01/13/2012 12:12 PM, peter sikking wrote: > > > >

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Natterer
Hi Jay, all of that, apart from rotating while staying editable, is implemented and will be in gimp 2.8. --mitch On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 14:11 -0500, Jay Smith wrote: > On 01/13/2012 12:12 PM, peter sikking wrote: > > > > so please help us by replying here, with you answer what > > text means to y

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-13 Thread Jay Smith
On 01/13/2012 12:12 PM, peter sikking wrote: so please help us by replying here, with you answer what text means to you when working with GIMP. One of my major uses is composing textual elements of book covers and spines. Another use is minor overlays of bits of text on photographs to poin

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > 1. Really small text frames: with few words in not more than two rows > (think logos, captions for screenshots etc.). Adjustments: font, font > face, size, letter spacing, baseline offset, color. Missing property: > stroke color. My

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:12 PM, peter sikking wrote: > so please help us by replying here, with you answer what > text means to you when working with GIMP. Two primary uses in my case. 1. Really small text frames: with few words in not more than two rows (think logos, captions for screenshots e

Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text tool

2012-01-13 Thread peter sikking
On Dec 19, I wrote: > The GIMP UI team just got a bit bigger. Dominique Schmidt > will work the first 3 months of 2012 on an appropriately > sized UI design project. The deliverable is a UI spec. today we picked the topic Dominique will be working on: working with text in GIMP, specifically wit