I don't know if this kind of things are good or bad for interaction, but
what if a label saying "drop files here to open" is placed over Wilber
when the pointer is over the toolbox and that text disappears for good
after the user drops an image for the first time?
Even wilber can disappear after
On May 13, 2012, at 7:22, Liam R E Quin wrote
some very wise words:
> Useability does not operate in a vacuum - branding is part of the user
> experience.
>
> Useable is aslo not always the same as "immediately comfortable."
>
> Please, let's not attack people.
for which I am grateful.
also L
On 12.05.12 11:00 pm, Kevin Cozens wrote:
When this was discussed on IRC some time after the change had been
made and some people were commenting/complaining about the "waste of
space" the response was to add a line to the gimprc file. The idea of
making it configurable via Preferences was re
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 18:37 +0200, gg wrote:
[to SorinN]
> As the in-house GUI expert , I'm rather surprised you don't see that as
> the priority too. But if you have "attachment" there's probably no harm
> in you liking it.
Useability does not operate in a vacuum - branding is part of the user
On 12-05-12 04:02 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
If we do care about it, is there a reason we add a Wilber logo to the
top of the toolbar?
As Tobias mentioned it is a drag and drop target area. There is a tooltip
that pops up if you point at the area long enough with the mouse. The logo
in t
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:
> Wilber by itself doesn't communicate the behavior, so users who
> didn't read about it will only know that dragging and dropping works
> by... dragging and dropping.
That was exactly my point. I'm sorry it caused such an uproar,
I think it would be nice if that portion with willber is revealed with
some sort of highlight when the user drags an importable file over the
toolbar. That would give a hint without using the space permanently.
Wilber by itself doesn't communicate the behavior, so users who didn't
read about it
On 05/12/12 18:04, SorinN wrote:
..de gustibus
probably an option in preferences will solve this problem forever
one million less me will put out the icon, me not - so we just get
million of happy peoples.
so my opinion is for the option to choose enable / disable Wilber icon
in preferences
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 19:06 +0200, peter sikking wrote:
[...]
> > A gtk+ drop target might be a better approach.
>
> is that a standard widget? I have trouble googling it.
No, I am sorry, I was overly laconic. You are standing in
my sunlight.
I was trying to suggest that gtk+ could add a new wid
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 19:06 +0200, peter sikking wrote:
[...]
> > A gtk+ drop target might be a better approach.
>
> is that a standard widget? I have trouble googling it.
No, I am sorry, I was overly laconic. You are standing in
my sunlight.
I was trying to suggest that gtk+ could add a new wid
gfxuser wrote:
> peter sikking wrote:
>> well, usability is a lot more than ‘what can do people find out
>> in the first 5 minutes’ (ease of learning). GIMP is designed
>> for other goals: speed of use, the freedom to create, etc.
>
> can you explain this in more detail, please? I'm honestly inte
Liam wrote:
>>> "drop images" text message would me more efficient and explicit
>>> or probably an icon representing the drag and drop action...
>>
>> now that would be really annoying, looking at that 40 hours a week,
>> every week of the year, no?
>
> A gtk+ drop target might be a better appro
"well, usability is a lot more than ‘what can do people find out
in the first 5 minutes’ (ease of learning). GIMP is designed
for other goals: speed of use, the freedom to create, etc."
strange, I was thinking that this topic was related to UI usability
of course speed of use has nothing to do wit
OMG not again :)
1. Wilber is cute
2. If you don't like Wilber, add (toolbox-wilber no) to gimprc
Regards,
--mitch
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 12:02 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> Hi,
>
> AFAIK, our reasoning for presenting tools' options in a vertically
> oriented dockable dialog in the sideba
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 15:41 +0200, peter sikking wrote:
> SorinN wrote:
>
> > "drop images" text message would me more efficient and explicit
> > or probably an icon representing the drag and drop action...
>
> now that would be really annoying, looking at that 40 hours a week,
> every week of th
peter sikking wrote:
well, usability is a lot more than ‘what can do people find out
in the first 5 minutes’ (ease of learning). GIMP is designed
for other goals: speed of use, the freedom to create, etc.
Hi Peter,
can you explain this in more detail, please? I'm honestly interested and
like
On 05/12/12 12:36, gfxuser wrote:
2) You absolutely don't need the logo to drop things top open. The
whole toolbox's area works that way.
Nice news! I didn't know this.
So this bar is only there to host a dumb logo, it is a total waste of
space in an environment where space is a premium.
P
Cristi just pointed me to think that probably
users can have this option in preferences.
I mean to keep the Wilber or to hide Wilber for more vertical space in Toolbox
I will not remove Wilber ;) I promise
but some users in need for vertical space will appreciate this option.
personal note :
for
SorinN wrote:
> "drop images" text message would me more efficient and explicit
> or probably an icon representing the drag and drop action...
now that would be really annoying, looking at that 40 hours a week,
every week of the year, no?
> Wilber itself has nothing to do with the fact of
> "re
În data de Sat, 12 May 2012 12:02:31 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine a
scris:
> AFAIK, our reasoning for presenting tools' options in a vertically
> oriented dockable dialog in the sidebar is that we care about vertical
> space.
>
> If we do care about it, is there a reason we add a Wilber logo to th
mr. Sikking;
"drop images" text message would me more efficient and explicit
or probably an icon representing the drag and drop action...
Wilber itself has nothing to do with the fact of
"remembering the drag and drop" ..it's just a branding sign
for me is ok - I like it there but :
- a new user w
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
I can't see how the logo is a hint that things can be dropped on
it. It looks more like a branding element.
That's my impression, too. Maybe it's dedicated to those, who forgot
that they're currently using GIMP Of course they can also be reminded of
this by a repeate
guys,
the answer is yes, yes, yes.
yes, wilber in the toolbox is suppose to help remember that
it is a drag + drop area for opening files (as new document).
does it (and the n-i-w) have a tooltip for it?
yes, it is also a bit of branding. wilber is watching you.
(btw, if someone wants to impleme
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM, gfxuser wrote:
> IMO the Wilber logo is currently not obsolete. Its purpose is to drag and
> drop files on it to open them in GIMP.
Oh?
1) I can't see how the logo is a hint that things can be dropped on
it. It looks more like a branding element. Maybe I'm missin
Am 12.05.12 10:02, schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine:
Hi,
AFAIK, our reasoning for presenting tools' options in a vertically
oriented dockable dialog in the sidebar is that we care about vertical
space.
If we do care about it, is there a reason we add a Wilber logo to the
top of the toolbar? I've be
Hi Alexandre
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
wrote:
>
> ... is there a reason we add a Wilber logo to the
> top of the toolbar?
AFAIK, the Wilber is a hint, that you can drag and drop files in this
window, to open this image. This makes the UI consistent with the "No
Image
Hi,
AFAIK, our reasoning for presenting tools' options in a vertically
oriented dockable dialog in the sidebar is that we care about vertical
space.
If we do care about it, is there a reason we add a Wilber logo to the
top of the toolbar? I've been hearing questions how to remove it for a
couple
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