Hello Gimp Users and Developers, @Martin Nordholts: Please do not beg yourself pardon, if answering takes a little longer! I am VERY happy, that there is feedback from the developers at all :-)
So, back to "business": > Isn't what you are seeing here simply bug #555493 [1] ? If yes, then > yeah that is certainly a bug. I'm not shure if it is the same. I don't have "Resize window on zoom" and "Resize window on image size change" enabled, nor do I use the crop tool, as it is described in #555493. But the result is comparable (but not the exactly the SAME). > Since other use cases rely on that typing "1" does *not* use the cursor > as the zoom focus point (which was what bug #553534 [2] was all about), > I suggest you instead zoom out with the "-" key which *does* use the > mouse cursor as the zoom focus point, or make use of the Zoom Revert > functionality (View -> Zoom -> Revert Zoom, default shortcut key is "`"). Using "Minus Key" is slow, because I have to type it several times, until I reach 100%. Using "Zoom Revert" doesn't do it either, because it also don't sends me back to 100%. I see that an average user, that doesn't know the zoom behavior as good, could be irritated by the old behavior (due to bug #555493 he might be even more now ;-). But why not allow the old behavior (via operator key) for users that do know what they are doing? For me, that would be a large improvement (ALT key would fit my hand the best ;-)... I think, we must divide my issue into two issues coming together: 1.) The centering issue, that could be #555493, or a relative to it. 2.) The "new" behavior, that the "1" key doesn't use cursor as center of zoom. Point 1 was already present in 2.6, but wasn't much of a problem to me, since I had the cursor on the right position. With introduction of patch for bug #553534, it became a problem for me to, because now I'm affected by problem 1 too. So, how can we find out, if my problems with "seeing image corners in image window after zoomout" IS bug #555493, or just a related bug? And shall I write my arguments for a zoom operator key again into Bug 553534 (centering issues after image scaling and setting zoom to 100%)? Sincerely, Claus Berghammer Martin Nordholts schrieb: > Claus Berghammer wrote: >> When I zoomed in with 2.6.0, put the cursor on the "pixels of interest", and >> type "1", the pixels of interest WAS at (or close to) the cursor (as >> expected). Now, with 2.6.1, the "pixels of interest" are somewhere, but not >> by far close to the cursor. Instead I always see the corner which is closest >> to the "pixels of interest" centered in the window. >> > > Hi > > Isn't what you are seeing here simply bug #555493 [1] ? If yes, then > yeah that is certainly a bug. > >> I open a "larger" picture (1944x2592px), where "red eyes" has to be removed. >> That for, I zoom into the eyes with the zoom tool. Then I draw a freehand >> selection on every eye that needs to be changed. To see the effect of the >> following step at 100%, I type "1" while the cursor is between the two eyes. >> With 2.6 the eyes were centered in the image window now, and was able to >> proceed without any extra panning. > > Since other use cases rely on that typing "1" does *not* use the cursor > as the zoom focus point (which was what bug #553534 [2] was all about), > I suggest you instead zoom out with the "-" key which *does* use the > mouse cursor as the zoom focus point, or make use of the Zoom Revert > functionality (View -> Zoom -> Revert Zoom, default shortcut key is "`"). > >> The zoom button instead always centers the image in the image window, which >> is slightly more compelling to me than centering a image corner in the >> window, but still not the perfect way. >> >> I would like to have the following behavior: >> >> - Zooming out with cursor IN the image window -> center the pixels under the >> cursor in the image window, image borders should be ignored. >> - Zooming out with mouse outside image window -> pixels in the center of the >> image window should remain the pixels in the center of the image window, >> image borders should be ?. >> > > If you by "zoom button" mean the "-" or "+" key, then this is how it > currently behaves. And actually it is an open question if it *should* > behave that way or if the image coordinate under the cursor should > *always* be the zoom focus point, independent of if the cursor is within > the image window canvas or not. That is how GIMP 2.4 behaves. The way it > currently works in GIMP 2.6 was introduced before the image was made (in > the middle of GIMP 2.5 development) to center itself in the viewport if > it becomes small enough to fit there when zooming out . In other words, > there is no real reason to keep the new behaviour here. > >> For the thing with image borders, how about introducing a operator key for >> zooming? Currently ALT and SHIFT doesn't seem to have a function while >> zooming, so one of these keys could be used to set the wanted border >> behavior. > > I'm sceptical about this, to me it doesn't make much sense and feels > like a workaround to an issue that I'm not even sure exists in the first > place. > > Sorry for the late reply > > BR, > Martin > > [1] > Bug 555493 – Zoom 1:1 scrolls partly off image > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555493 > > [2] > Bug 553534 – centering issues after image scaling and setting zoom to 100% > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553534 > > _______________________________________________ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
