Re: [Gimp-user] Layers in reverse

2012-08-12 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Misty Day wrote: > >> Is there a way to take a flattened image and reverse that so you can >> manipulate the layers? > > You mean, an already saved image? No. > > Of course, if you mean undoing flatten

Re: [Gimp-user] resizing images to fit the canvas

2012-08-12 Thread Olivier
2012/8/12 Misty Day : > I can size the canvas perfectly, but when I add an image as a layer and try > to resize the image, it will not resize to fit the canvas. How is this > done? Resize the layer, not the canvas. Image: Layer -> Scale Layer or Layer to Image Size. -- Olivier Lecarme _

Re: [Gimp-user] Layers in reverse

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Misty Day wrote: > Is there a way to take a flattened image and reverse that so you can > manipulate the layers? You mean, an already saved image? No. Of course, if you mean undoing flattening while the project is still open, it's perfectly doable via Undo Histo

Re: [Gimp-user] re help install

2012-08-12 Thread Olivier
2012/8/12 Misty Day : > Please tell me how to install help for GIMP 2.8 For what operating system? -- Olivier Lecarme ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Burnie wrote: > On 08/12/2012 08:20 AM, R Kimber wrote: >> >> Or even making widely used plugins like 8bf work in Gimp > > bug #? What would you need it for? :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gim

[Gimp-user] resizing images to fit the canvas

2012-08-12 Thread Misty Day
I can size the canvas perfectly, but when I add an image as a layer and try to resize the image, it will not resize to fit the canvas. How is this done?___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp

[Gimp-user] re help install

2012-08-12 Thread Misty Day
Please tell me how to install help for GIMP 2.8___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

[Gimp-user] Layers in reverse

2012-08-12 Thread Misty Day
Is there a way to take a flattened image and reverse that so you can manipulate the layers? Photoshop allows it.___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-12 Thread Burnie
On 08/12/2012 08:20 AM, R Kimber wrote: Or even making widely used plugins like 8bf work in Gimp bug #? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Archie Arevalo
On Sunday 12 August 2012 09:01:21 Ken Warner wrote: > Your implied assertion that people who remain silent support the new > interface cannot be validated -- just like the arbitrary design choices > that led to this discussion. > On 8/12/2012 8:25 AM, isabel brison wrote: > > Let's think: how many

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Archie Arevalo
On Sunday 12 August 2012 21:02:07 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, daniel wrote: > > Is there any reason you skipped over the part about the damage caused by > > deviations from the accepted standard for user interface behavior and how > > it affects not only the user

Re: [Gimp-user] Extreme newby needs some help please!

2012-08-12 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 17:04 -0700, Jessica Tomlinson wrote: > Hi all, > I'm really pleased to discover such a complete, free application > which grew out of a community spirit. However, I'm a little > frustrated because I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out just what > makes it tick ;0. I

Re: [Gimp-user] Extreme newby needs some help please!

2012-08-12 Thread Partha Bagchi
Hi, Try the following. Click on the Color Menu Item and then Color to Alpha. White should already be selected and so hit OK. You are done. Partha On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Jessica Tomlinson wrote: > Hi all, > I'm really pleased to discover such a complete, free application which >

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP is GREAT!

2012-08-12 Thread William Thorup
While we are at it I would like to give my thanks as well. I am a 3D\2D digital artist and I have been using Gimp for close to a decade now. I have loved and preferred it ever since I started. And I have encouraged those around me to try it out, if not make it a replacement for some more expensiv

[Gimp-user] Help: How to activate pen pressure for varying brush size? (Tablet users)

2012-08-12 Thread siehorse
>First, forget version 2.6.11 and install version 2.8. Then you'll find >a very powerful set of tunable paint dynamics, allowing you to connect >pen pressure with any parameter you wish. Thanks Olivier! GIMP works fine with my tablet now. -- ___ gimp-

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread jfrazierjr
> > So please, don't count my silence so far as indifference... > Likewise... my silence is not indifference... I LOVE the new behavior. For what I do most, which is creating/editing images with multiple layer/mask support, the change is EXTREMELY welcome. First you have gotten rid of the

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP is GREAT!

2012-08-12 Thread Gerald
Me too I agree ! I use it under Linux since version 1.6 ( see http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/unstable-1.1.html ) at least . That's a way long time ago, and I always adapt my self to this superberb pice of software. Now I use the 2.8 version on Linux and I'm as always, pleased. As we say i

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Maarten De Munck
Alexandre Prokoudine schreef op zo 12-08-2012 om 21:09 [+0400]: > "...there are thousands more GIMP users who didn't find the issue was > worth complaining about" absolutely doesn't imply that. > > This is not black and white world where people either support or not > support things. There's such

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP is GREAT!

2012-08-12 Thread Mogens Jæger
Den 12-08-2012 18:27, Archie Arevalo skrev: Dear Alexandre Prokoudine and all those who appreciate GIMP, GIMP is a great tool. It is not that hard to adapt to the changes made in 2.8. It is easy to reform habits if the community would just stop yapping about it and instead do something about it

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> Why, in the "File->Save as..." dialog do other graphical file formats appear >> in the file browsing? If this is to be a consistent behavior, why taunt the >> user (and his expectations) by showing them *.JPG and other files and then

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Ken Warner wrote: > Your implied assertion that people who remain silent support the new > interface cannot be validated -- just like the arbitrary design choices that > led to this discussion. I'm bound to ask you, if there's something wrong with your perception

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, daniel wrote: > Is there any reason you skipped over the part about the damage caused by > deviations from the accepted standard for user interface behavior and how it > affects not only the user work flow in GiMP but also in other programs a > user may use at the

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Ken Warner
Your implied assertion that people who remain silent support the new interface cannot be validated -- just like the arbitrary design choices that led to this discussion. On 8/12/2012 8:25 AM, isabel brison wrote: Let's think: how many people have written in about this? Fifty, a hundred? Coun

Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-12 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote: > >> Alexandre, >> >> All Photoshop plugins filters have the extension 8bf? > > Nope. There's also 8bi and others. See the beginning of > http://www.fileinfo.com/filetypes/plugin.

Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote: > Alexandre, > > All Photoshop plugins filters have the extension 8bf? Nope. There's also 8bi and others. See the beginning of http://www.fileinfo.com/filetypes/plugin. 8bf is the only supported format because it's the only one Tor had docume

Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-12 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM, R Kimber wrote: > >> Or even making widely used plugins like 8bf work in Gimp > > Are you by any chance referring to the PSPI plug-in? > > Alexandre Prokoudine > http://libregraphicsworld.org > ___

[Gimp-user] GIMP is GREAT!

2012-08-12 Thread Archie Arevalo
Dear Alexandre Prokoudine and all those who appreciate GIMP, GIMP is a great tool. It is not that hard to adapt to the changes made in 2.8. It is easy to reform habits if the community would just stop yapping about it and instead do something about it themselves. You hard work are tremendously

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Daniel Hauck wrote: > Why, in the "File->Save as..." dialog do other graphical file formats appear > in the file browsing? If this is to be a consistent behavior, why taunt the > user (and his expectations) by showing them *.JPG and other files and then > not allo

Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM, R Kimber wrote: > Or even making widely used plugins like 8bf work in Gimp Are you by any chance referring to the PSPI plug-in? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-use

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Andrew Clarke
"but you will make us grumpier and less willing to work on the project" Please don't get grumpy, because GIMP is GREAT and its moving forward. I am looking forward to higher bit processing... I wish at times we could close some threads as I am getting a little tied of deleting emails, forums h

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:37 AM, kiwi_steve wrote: > Gimp used to be a great photo editor, now its useful but cumbersome > to use because even if you open a JPG you can't even change the size > and just save-as a JPG - that is just utter nonsense. You absolutely can. It's just called differently

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Daniel Hauck wrote: > The name "Jesus" is correctly pronounced [hey-soos']. Oh boy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#Etymology_of_name > I think it's pretty clear what users and developers want and they aren't the > same. There we go again. Let me reinstate

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:03 AM, kiwi_steve wrote: > And judging from the number of people (myself included) who are still > annoyed about it and asking for it to be put back the way it was, the > questions and concerns are NOT being answered - unless you call > telling people to just get used to

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Christen Anderson
On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, isabel brison wrote: On 12 August 2012 08:37, kiwi_steve > wrote: >But I have to say, the amount of flak the developers are >taking about this is totally unjustified. Then why are they getting it? I've always heard you shouldn'

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread isabel brison
On 12 August 2012 08:37, kiwi_steve wrote: > >But I have to say, the amount of flak the developers are > >taking about this is totally unjustified. > > Then why are they getting it? > I've always heard you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. We're getting awesome software absolutely free a

Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-12 Thread R Kimber
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 13:39:52 -0700 Akkana Peck wrote: > Now can we move on and talk about gegl graphs and improving > the brush UI? :-) Or even making widely used plugins like 8bf work in Gimp - Richard. -- Richard Kimber Political Science Resources http://www.PoliticsResources.net/ ___

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread maderios
On 08/12/2012 04:43 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * maderios [08-12-12 10:06]: ... The problem is not "to understand" ! All I know, all I see, is that the change "save" and "save as" in Gimp-2.8 complicates my life too. I use working method with Gimp-2.6 that allows me to save much time and s

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* maderios [08-12-12 10:06]: ... > The problem is not "to understand" ! All I know, all I see, is that the > change "save" and "save as" in Gimp-2.8 complicates my life too. > I use working method with Gimp-2.6 that allows me to save much time and > sweat. Unfortunately this method is imposs

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread maderios
On 08/11/2012 11:40 PM, Gfxuser wrote: On 11.08.12 at 23:19 maderios wrote: For me, "export" word is useless and confusing. Export to what? To jpeg, png, xcf, tiff ? It depends on the file where you start. You could start with a jpeg and want to export to .xcf, or the contrary Hi Made

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Hauck
On 08/12/2012 07:25 AM, Daniel Hauck wrote: Why oh why does this have to go on? Oh, and just to add one other thing: Why, in the "File->Save as..." dialog do other graphical file formats appear in the file browsing? If this is to be a consistent behavior, why taunt the user (and his expecta

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* kiwi_steve [08-12-12 03:40]: > >But I have to say, the amount of flak the developers are > >taking about this is totally unjustified. > > Then why are they getting it? Because people feel they are *owed* but have no investment in the creation and/or further development. > >*half* their u

[Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Hauck
Why oh why does this have to go on? In F/OSS projects, we have seen the results of projects upsetting the users and developers in XFree86 and more recently in GNOME. The result is that the project becomes irrelevant. While the new behavior in GiMP is certainly more correct and more appropri

[Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-12 Thread kiwi_steve
>But I have to say, the amount of flak the developers are >taking about this is totally unjustified. Then why are they getting it? >*half* their user base? I think that's rather an exaggeration. >and I think that they deserve a little (read "a lot") of respect simply >for being willing to