Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Daniel Hauck wrote: No, I don't think so because this isn't a democratic situation. What you think rules out over what many others independently think and agree upon. But let me ask you this and I'll shut up. Do you use a Dvorak keyboard or a Querty? And

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread qelvin5500
On 01/03/2014 05:21 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote: It's lucky that GIMP now works like so many other programs - inkscape, open office, blender, spreadsheet programs, ... You're wrong: gimp editor works differently. All editors, free or not free, save work in a normal way, except gimp. This

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 2 January 2014 23:20, Daniel Hauck dan...@yacg.com wrote: If I intended it only for you, why would you be so rude as to publish something I wrote only to you in a public list? Sorry. It was a SNAFU due to the nature of the GUI of this webmail client. on which I have no control over, and

Re: [Gimp-user] Cage Tool Suggestions

2014-01-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:12 PM, meteorquake wrote: Currently the cage tool recalculates the transformation with every point I change. This can be terribly slow for every point moved. What I imagine would be good therefore would be to have an option for how the transformation is previewed -

[Gimp-user] Cage Tool Suggestions

2014-01-03 Thread meteorquake
Thanks so much for the quick response and the future plans! I'll wait patiently :) All the best for the year, david (Edinburgh) -- meteorquake (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread akovia
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014, at 07:28 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, qelvin5500 wrote: On 01/03/2014 05:21 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote: It's lucky that GIMP now works like so many other programs - inkscape, open office, blender, spreadsheet programs, ...

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Simon Budig
Daniel Hauck (dan...@yacg.com) wrote: Nice spin. What spin? You claimed that querty (you probbly mean qwerty btw.) was designed to be inefficient, when in fact it was designed for a faster typing speed. Who is doing the spin here? Sure, without the cumbersome mechanics there are better and

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Simon Budig wrote: Daniel Hauck wrote: Nice spin. What spin? You claimed that querty (you probbly mean qwerty btw.) was designed to be inefficient, when in fact it was designed for a faster typing speed. Who is doing the spin here? People behind the

Re: [Gimp-user] layer positioning

2014-01-03 Thread tom
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 22:42:47 -0200 Joao S. O. Bueno gwid...@mpc.com.br wrote: 1) Enable snap to canvas edges on the view menu. If needed, fiddle with the snap distance in edit-preferences-Tool options. Is there a way to make this on by default? ___

Re: [Gimp-user] layer positioning

2014-01-03 Thread akovia
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014, at 07:18 AM, tom wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 22:42:47 -0200 Joao S. O. Bueno gwid...@mpc.com.br wrote: 1) Enable snap to canvas edges on the view menu. If needed, fiddle with the snap distance in edit-preferences-Tool options. Is there a way to make this on by

Re: [Gimp-user] layer positioning

2014-01-03 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Indeed, I just now saw there are no options for setting the defaults for the various snap to options. I always assumed they where along the display (guides, selection, layer borders) configurations. js -- On 3 January 2014 11:30, akovia akov...@eml.cc wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014, at 07:18

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread John Meyer
On 1/2/2014 4:17 PM, akovia wrote: I've watched these threads come an go and I must be missing something. When this new behavior first arrived, like everyone else I was used to the old way and having to learn a new work-flow is never fun. Regardless I just figured this was the way it was going

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Richard
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 23:04:50 -0200 From: gwid...@mpc.com.br To: dan...@yacg.com; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter ok. Stop there. open a txt file with ms word.Not a .doc, docx, odt. click file-save. Read what it tells you. I rest the case. There is

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Steve Kinney
On 01/02/2014 08:48 PM, Daniel Hauck wrote: Yes and I'm pretty sure most people are getting what I'm driving at -- standards of function, design and behavior. I never read more than one or two messages per 100 in Save Vs. Export Blows Goats (I Have Proof) threads, but if what you are driving

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
03 янв. 2014 г. 22:55 пользователь Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net написал: On 01/02/2014 08:48 PM, Daniel Hauck wrote: Yes and I'm pretty sure most people are getting what I'm driving at -- standards of function, design and behavior. I never read more than one or two messages per 100 in

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:16:07 -0800, Richard wrote: Sure, RTF supports many of THE most commonly used text editing features (bold/italic/underline, tabs/indents/spacing, font face/size/color) but it doesn't support many advanced Word features (widow/orphan control, footnotes, column layouts,

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Richard
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org From: jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 21:41:57 +0100 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:16:07 -0800, Richard wrote: Sure, RTF supports many of THE most commonly used text editing features

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Jeffery Small
Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net writes: Constructive suggestions about how to make a more coherent workflow in GIMP are welcomed. Whining about change is not so welcome. Liam: I will take you up on your offer to make a constructive GUI suggestion. I fully understand the arguments for the

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Psiweapon
@ Prokoudine: Dude, if you didn't act so full of yourself, so self-righteous and so haughty, half of these discussions wouldn't last half as long as they do. *You're a troll feeding other trolls* and thus you too are stoking the fire of these inane, pointless, never-ending arguments, because we

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Jeffery Small wrote: My simple solution is to provide a workflow switch in the preferences that flips back and forth between the two workflow paradigms. Which has already been evaluated and denied. In his blog post on GIMP 2.8: understanding UI changes,

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Steve Kinney wrote: I'm all for standards of function, design and behavior. Like for instance, when the GIMP saves a file, this file preserves the state of the project's work in progress; it is a project file, not an image file. And for instance, when

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter

2014-01-03 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 22:14 +, Jeffery Small wrote: Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net writes: [...] I will take you up on your offer to make a constructive GUI suggestion. I fully understand the arguments for the workflow change that was made to GIMP 2.8. What I think was lost in the