Nice web pageā¦
Is KompoZer still useful? I have BlueGriffon.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Greg Chapman wrote:
> Hi Renaud,
>
> On 15 Jun 13 12:36 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
> said:
>>> To the whingers - you are boring, get a life.
>>
>> This is a bit rich, coming from the country where we hear the
Hi Renaud,
On 15 Jun 13 12:36 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
said:
> > To the whingers - you are boring, get a life.
>
> This is a bit rich, coming from the country where we hear they are
> still whingeing about Decimalization and Metrication
You must know by now we Brits are going metric inch by inch!
On 06/17/2013 06:38 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 00:52 +0200, Ofnuts wrote:
if you only do local editing and save the image back with the
exact same JPEG quality settings, the "blocks" which no changed pixels
very quickly end up producing the very same data as their source in
Excellent post sir. Just because one is in software development, doesn'
t mean they understand professional image editing workflow.
Yeah I'm looking at a certain Debian developer ;-D
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On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 00:52 +0200, Ofnuts wrote:
> if you only do local editing and save the image back with the
> exact same JPEG quality settings, the "blocks" which no changed pixels
> very quickly end up producing the very same data as their source in the
> JPEG file in every editing cycle,
Helen wrote,
[I'm replying to the group so others can shoot me down if I'm wrong...]
> I've tried to understand your disinctions (and thank you, I appreciate
> it) but I just can't
> understand the relevance. I'm going to re-read. Not trying to be
> dense, but, whether
> I call it a file or
On 06/15/2013 07:53 PM, Grue wrote:
Wow, just wow. Here are the facts: every time you "save" your image as
JPEG, you lose information. It is by design a lossy image format that
uses an algorithm to conserve your disk space via throwing away some
"insignificant" information (which works well for
On 16.06.2013 15:03, Bob Long wrote:
So, again, if I understand you, the new export process has actually
revealed an error in your previous workflow.
Revealing that misconception is one of the change's goals. See
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification
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Ah, finally, some concrete specifics. Let me digest that...
> Old way: Create file 300x300, work on it.
Okay, you now have one window/tab displaying your image. (Since this is just
an example, I'm not going to question whether the image is 300x300 pixels or
some arbitrary size tagged as 300
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:40:34 -0500
> From: jnagyjr1...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? [saving undo history]
>
> > On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> > How often is Undo his
On 15.06.2013 17:03, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
> From: schum...@gmx.de
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
>
> . . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you lose the undo hist
On 06/15/13 22:38, Liam R E Quin wrote:
On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
From: schum...@gmx.de
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
. . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you
Helen wrote,
>> Also, when you export the image to a JPEG, if suddenly your open image
>> window "disappears", well that is not supposed to happen at all and sounds
>> something like a GIMP program crash, but we don't have enough information
>> as is to determine that. And when GIMP crashes, you
>
> Also, when you export the image to a JPEG, if suddenly your open image
> window "disappears", well that is not supposed to happen at all and sounds
> something like a GIMP program crash, but we don't have enough information
> as is to determine that. And when GIMP crashes, you at least get a m
Bob you are indeed correct as the image is held in the memory not a file type,
the point I was trying to make was that the image is no longer a .jpg. I
believe there is a little confusion here generally with what Helen is trying to
do. I think she needs several scaled images.
Sent from my iPa
Andrew & Bridget wrote,
> When you open a image in GIMP you are basically importing any image type
> into the software, so whilst you are editing in GIMP it is no longer a
> .jpg or .tif or other that you opened it is a .xcf file, hence why you
> now export. Where previous versions you opened a .
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Helen wrote:
> don't see any way around the repeated reopenings
Mmm... There's this difficult to catch bug... Sometimes when there are
multiple images opened in the single-window mode, exporting an image
that's among the first tabs to the left results in GIMP jum
On 06/16/2013 11:38 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:
On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
From: schum...@gmx.de
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
. . . That's not perfect yet - for example
On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
> > From: schum...@gmx.de
> > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
> >
> > . . . That's not perfect yet
On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 22:37 -0400, Helen wrote:
> The export feature could have been added without
> disabling the save as feature.
Control-shift-e (export to) works like the old "save as" for non-xcf
formats.
Liam
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Pictures f
On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 16:14 -0400, Helen wrote:
> When I export, it closes!
The preview will close but the original image is still open.
If you use single-window-mode, GIMP then switches back to a random (or
unpredictable) image, not the one you were working on, but it's still
there.
My own wor
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:12:06 -0400
> From: etter...@gmail.com
> To: tomd...@comcast.net
> CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
>
> Not exactly, no, the edited image that is now on my screen, the xcf, is
> probably a res
Not exactly, no, the edited image that is now on my screen, the xcf, is
probably a resolution of 300 x 300 and may be a print size of 12 x 16;
But the exported
image is a resolution of 72 and is not meant for printing. *That* is the
one that I have to re-open (because I can't force it not to clo
On 15.06.2013 22:21, Tom Williams wrote:
On 06/15/2013 01:19 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
There's something crazy going on with your computer and your copy of
GIMP. What happens for just about everybody else is:
1. File > Export
2. Specify file name
3. Click 'Export'
4. Contonue working on
Tom Williams (tomd...@comcast.net) wrote:
> I'm thinking Helen is referring to the JPEG preview window that opens,
> during the JPEG export process.After the JPEG export is done, the
> preview window closes since the file's been saved.
However, the separate window only shows up when one is wor
On 06/15/2013 01:19 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Helen wrote:
>
Exactly! We should not have to keep opening these files! They should
stay on my screen until I finish with them.
>>> But noone's forcing you to close them.
>> Are you kidding?
> Nope.
On 06/15/13 15:19, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Helen wrote:
Exactly! We should not have to keep opening these files! They should
stay on my screen until I finish with them.
But noone's forcing you to close them.
Are you kidding?
Nope.
When I export
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Helen wrote:
>> > Exactly! We should not have to keep opening these files! They should
>> > stay on my screen until I finish with them.
>>
>> But noone's forcing you to close them.
>
> Are you kidding?
Nope.
> When I export, it closes!
It shouldn't and it n
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Helen wrote:
> >>
> >> Here are the facts: every time you "save" your image as JPEG, you lose
> >> information. It is by design a lossy image format
> >
> >
> > Exactl
> When you make
> an edit on the image and you export it, the JPEG doesn't "disappear" and
> the edited image still shows in the image window. It's that you want to
> see the _exported_ JPEG file to confirm the export resulted in the JPEG
> file you wanted to create for the client
> I think you'r
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Helen wrote:
>>
>> Here are the facts: every time you "save" your image as JPEG, you lose
>> information. It is by design a lossy image format
>
>
> Exactly! We should not have to keep opening these files! They should
> stay on my screen until I finish with them
>
> Here are the facts: every time you "save" your image as JPEG, you lose
> information. It is by design a lossy image format
Exactly! We should not have to keep opening these files! They should
stay on my screen until I finish with them.
Now, in defense of the gallery operators, I am sending
On 06/15/2013 12:42 PM, Helen wrote:
> Your steps are pretty much the same as mine. The misunderstanding
> Iguess is that, after I export, the .jpg file disappears. Yes, the
> original image is there, with all it's layers and that is good, but at
> this point, I am finished with the .xcf file an
Your steps are pretty much the same as mine. The misunderstanding Iguess
is that, after I export, the .jpg file disappears. Yes, the original
image is there, with all it's layers and that is good, but at this point, I
am finished with the .xcf file and I want to see the jpg. But it is gone,
so
On 06/15/2013 01:53 PM, Grue wrote:
Wow, just wow. Here are the facts: every time you "save" your image as
JPEG, you lose information. It is by design a lossy image format that
uses an algorithm to conserve your disk space via throwing away some
"insignificant" information (which works well for
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> These bullying emails are just plain rubbish. Software should be written with
> the users in mind. And
> - opening a jpg file
> - editing
> - saving
> should result in a saved version of yhe original file, because that is what
> practica
well, i gotta say, that were i ever to actually use the gimp in any heavy
capacity, or a company i worked at would, these "saving" lists would be
required reading due to the variety of formats/procedures detailed.
thanks, i guess.
:)
dan
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:
> On
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Renaud OLGIATI
wrote:
>> I fail to understand why using E rather than
>> S adds any time at all to your work.
>
> Not the time, but the annoyance at the stupidity of being told my file has
> not been saved, when I have just saved it back to its original format th
>Hi all
>
>I not often write here, but I'm a regular user of gimp. But I slowly
>get upset by some mails here
>First: I am myself developer of open source projects as well as Debian
>developer, so not some casual user.
>
>These bullying emails are just plain rubbish. Software should be
>written wit
On 06/14/2013 08:14 PM, Helen wrote:
> It would take too long a message to do justice to your question, but
> a quick version goes something like
> My agent sends a jpg of the card she plans to mail out, asking me to edit.
> I edit, save to jpg becasue tha's what she wants, and it has now
> disappe
It would take too long a message to do justice to your question, but
a quick version goes something like
My agent sends a jpg of the card she plans to mail out, asking me to edit.
I edit, save to jpg becasue tha's what she wants, and it has now
disappeared off my screen.
I open it again to make sur
On 06/15/2013 04:38 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:57:57 +0200
maderios wrote:
This strange "save, save as" behaviour could not exist in a professional
environment.
A professional (and many amateurs) user know he has to save his work.
I think Gimp-2.8 tries to do inst
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:02:58 +0400
> From: alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression.
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Psiweapon wrote:
>
> > Excuse me, Alexandre, but you're being D
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200
> From: schum...@gmx.de
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ?
>
> . . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you lose the undo history . . .
How often is Undo history ACTUALLY nee
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:57:57 +0200
maderios wrote:
> This strange "save, save as" behaviour could not exist in a professional
> environment.
> A professional (and many amateurs) user know he has to save his work.
> I think Gimp-2.8 tries to do instead of the user that it should do himself.
> It
On 06/15/2013 02:28 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
Hi all
I not often write here, but I'm a regular user of gimp. But I slowly get upset
by some mails here
First: I am myself developer of open source projects as well as Debian
developer, so not some casual user.
These bullying emails are just p
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:18:37 -0500
"Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" wrote:
> > Well, at least went metric, they didn't remain overly attached to their
> > old warty version of a measurement system :)
> Actually they still use imperial measurements as well. The conversion
> over to metric wasn't 100% succ
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:29:37 +0100
"." wrote:
> I fail to understand why using E rather than
> S adds any time at all to your work.
Not the time, but the annoyance at the stupidity of being told my file has not
been saved, when I have just saved it back to its original format through
Export.
On 06/15/13 07:30, Ofnuts wrote:
On 06/15/2013 01:36 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
This is a bit rich, coming from the country where we hear they are
still whingeing about Decimalization and Metrication ;-3)
Well, at least went metric, they didn't remain overly attached to their
old warty v
On 06/15/2013 01:36 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
This is a bit rich, coming from the country where we hear they are still
whingeing about Decimalization and Metrication ;-3)
Well, at least went metric, they didn't remain overly attached to their
old warty version of a measurement system :)
Hi all
I not often write here, but I'm a regular user of gimp. But I slowly get upset
by some mails here
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:32:45AM +0100, . wrote:
>> No less than six digests were waiting to be read this morning, almost
>> entirely cluttered with this nonsense.
>>
>> How much do I p
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:32:45AM +0100, . wrote:
> No less than six digests were waiting to be read this morning, almost
> entirely cluttered with this nonsense.
>
> How much do I pay for the Gimp? Nothing.
>
> Am I delighted with it? Yes!
>
> Does it require any effort to get used to using E
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:32:45 +0100
"." wrote:
> How much do I pay for the Gimp? Nothing.
> Am I delighted with it? Yes!
Glad to hear you are.
> Does it require any effort to get used to using E and S ?
> No - a child would make less fuss than some of the posters to this
> group.
You are missi
> From: Helen
> I work with agents for my art galleries.
> One of my agents wants everything sent as jpeg
> so I send her what she wants.
> One wants .tif so I send her what she wants.
> Juried exhibits ask for jpeg (I don't know why
> but this change adds hours to a job
> that should take me ha
No less than six digests were waiting to be read this morning, almost
entirely cluttered with this nonsense.
How much do I pay for the Gimp? Nothing.
Am I delighted with it? Yes!
Does it require any effort to get used to using E and S ?
No - a child would make less fuss than some of the posters
Repeat after me :
Alt-F A, ctrl-s, ctrl-s (repeat as needed), shift-ctrl-e, close.
Hardly rocket science and needs about 15 minutes for mucles memory to cut in.
Jusy my 2d worth,
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On 15.06.2013 04:34, Helen wrote:
I work with agents for my art galleries. One of my agents wants
everything sent as jpeg so I send her what she wants. One wants
.tif so I send her what she wants. Juried exhibits ask for jpeg (I
don't know why)
So you need multiple exports from the same ima
On 06/14/2013 02:34 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> Every time people insist on cluttering the list up with weeping and
> wailing and gnashing of teeth over Save vs. Export, it is...
>
+1
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On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Helen wrote:
> My agent sends a jpg of the card she plans to mail out, asking me to edit.
> I edit, save to jpg becasue tha's what she wants, and it has now disappeared
> off my screen.
Why did it disappear off your screen? Why do you reopen it?
> This new requir
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Helen wrote:
> Andrew & Bridget
> A remark such as "if you don't like it, don't use it" is rude and
> unhelpful, and such remarks
> should never appear on this list. I've stayed out of the discussion of
> this regression -- I hate the
> change to-- but I appeal f
> So you're saying that thinking of The Gimp as an image editing program is
>> > wrong then, it need to be primarily regarded as a project based
>> compositing
>> > program ?
>>
>> That is what we've been saying for the past 7 years.
>>
>
> GIMP= Gnu Image Manipulation Program.
>
> Right?
>
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Helen wrote:
> Ron said:
> Since Linux is all in favour of freedom of choice, how about offering the
> user an export / save choice in the Preferences dialogues ?
>
I wish to endorse this. The export feature could have been added without
disabling the save as fea
Andrew & Bridget
A remark such as "if you don't like it, don't use it" is rude and
unhelpful, and such remarks
should never appear on this list. I've stayed out of the discussion of
this regression -- I hate the
change to-- but I appeal for courtesy to those who care enough to try to
communicate
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Crew wrote:
>> is the choice for Win/Mac and proprietary software an informed
>> one?
>
> Yes.
Wrong answer. See below.
> You might not like the information they made their choices on, but it's
> not entirely random.
Finally you made a statement that makes some
Like Tom, the change from Save to Export was a bit of a surprise to me as well.
Over time, I got used to it. Once you think about it, it actually makes more
sense to use this method than it does the previous method.
Just my two cents :)
p.s. People should really stop arguing about this. It has
On 06/14/2013 02:47 PM, Eduard Braun wrote:
> Actually I know nobody who likes the new distinction between save and
> export.
>
> But the whole discussion seems to be at a point of no return anyway
> and developers seem to defend the change as a matter of principle
> rather than aiming for maximum
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Psiweapon wrote:
>
> >> > I'm not saying this guy is right, but your "holier than thou"
> attitude is
> >> > corrosive and self-satisfied.
> >>
> >> Oh, not holier :)
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, and being smarter doesn't make you a better person. Your smarter than
> > you is still corrosive and self-satisfied.
>
> You see, I never claimed to be a good person. I'm not even remotely
> in
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Psiweapon wrote:
>> > I'm not saying this guy is right, but your "holier than thou" attitude is
>> > corrosive and self-satisfied.
>>
>> Oh, not holier :) Just smarter. And I can prove that.
>>
>>
> Are you sure? I'm not saying you're not, but you'd need *his *cred
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Psiweapon wrote:
>
> > Excuse me, Alexandre, but you're being DISMISSIVE AS HELL here.
>
> Yes, I am.
>
> > I'm not saying this guy is right, but your "holier than th
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Psiweapon wrote:
> Excuse me, Alexandre, but you're being DISMISSIVE AS HELL here.
Yes, I am.
> I'm not saying this guy is right, but your "holier than thou" attitude is
> corrosive and self-satisfied.
Oh, not holier :) Just smarter. And I can prove that.
Alex
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Crew wrote:
> > On 14/06/2013 19:06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> >>
> >> As a Linux user, I don't have tons of image editors to try. But hey,
> >> I'm quite ready to
Actually I know nobody who likes the new distinction between save and
export.
But the whole discussion seems to be at a point of no return anyway and
developers seem to defend the change as a matter of principle rather
than aiming for maximum usability, so it seems quite improbable anything
w
Every time people insist on cluttering the list up with weeping and
wailing and gnashing of teeth over Save vs. Export, it is...
A Sad Case Of Regression
:o/
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On 14/06/2013 21:51, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
is the choice for Win/Mac and proprietary software an informed
one?
Yes. You might not like the information they made their choices on, but
it's not entirely random.
In a world where people still think that GIMP is a strictly
multiwindow applicat
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Crew wrote:
>>> The vast majority of photographers DON'T use Linux because there's been
>>> >nothing credible for them.
>>
>> It's amazing that there are people who actually believe that.
>
> Why would you believe anything else ?
Because I have a brain and I happ
On 14/06/2013 19:47, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
The vast majority of photographers DON'T use Linux because there's been
>nothing credible for them.
It's amazing that there are people who actually believe that.
Why would you believe anything else ? Do you see any support from the
likes of Can
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr
wrote:
> You must not use Audacity, then.
Yeah, well, you know how it is... I actually use Ardour for my audio
stuff. That's basically the reason I quitted the Audacity team a few
years ago after having been part of it for, ugh, 8 years? Somet
Meant to send to list the first time, more non-standard behavior.
On 06/14/13 13:43, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:
Agreed 100%, also do not know why Audacity is in there. I expect audio to be
saved in Audacity in wav file format (which
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Crew wrote:
> On 14/06/2013 19:06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>>
>> As a Linux user, I don't have tons of image editors to try. But hey,
>> I'm quite ready to believe that most of them are doing it wrong:)
>
>
> Right I see now.
> "I write for Linux I don't need t
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:
> Agreed 100%, also do not know why Audacity is in there. I expect audio to be
> saved in Audacity in wav file format (which is what it does)
Which is what it does not. Audacity famously saves only project data
and exports everything els
On 06/14/13 12:46, Crew wrote:
You've never heard of Adobe Premiere, Kdenlive, Apple Final Cut, Apple
Logic, Audacity, Cubase, Ardour, Blender? That's OK. Now you have
Using the examples of video editing packages is rather disingenuous as
they are all project based programs that work on the exp
As for programs that work on intermediate formats, I think every other
program do this, even photoshop (remember psd).
No it doesn't.
Open a tif, change it, hit Ctrl/cmd+S (the standard save command) as it
just saves it with the changes.
It's what people expect to happen.
Paul Holman
www.col
On 14/06/2013 19:06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
As a Linux user, I don't have tons of image editors to try. But hey,
I'm quite ready to believe that most of them are doing it wrong:)
Right I see now.
"I write for Linux I don't need to conform to user requirements, I know
better"
The vast ma
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Crew wrote:
>> you mean compared to a project based image manipulation program, which
>> works on the expectation of combining/editing multiple images and
>> outputting in different image formats?
>
>
> So you're saying that thinking of The Gimp as an image editing
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
wrote:
> There reason the team doesn't provide a setting for that is because
> it's a behaviour change. Which is widely regarded by usability
> engineers as a sure pathway to hell.
(That is, the setting for behaviour change :))
Alexandre Pr
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
>> > how about offering the user an export / save choice in the Preferences
>> > dialogues ?
>
>> As already discussed before, the answer is 'no'.
>
> Why not ?
>
> Do I sense here a case of the Microsoft delusion ? ("We are Gimp of Borg,
you mean compared to a project based image manipulation program, which
works on the expectation of combining/editing multiple images and
outputting in different image formats?
So you're saying that thinking of The Gimp as an image editing program
is wrong then, it need to be primarily regarded
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Crew wrote:
Welcome to Prokoudine' Friday night tour to GIMP, the image editing
application that mends broken hearts.
>> You've never heard of Adobe Premiere, Kdenlive, Apple Final Cut, Apple
>> Logic, Audacity, Cubase, Ardour, Blender? That's OK. Now you have
>
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 21:43:17 +0400
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> > how about offering the user an export / save choice in the Preferences
> > dialogues ?
> As already discussed before, the answer is 'no'.
Why not ?
Do I sense here a case of the Microsoft delusion ? ("We are Gimp of Borg,
Crew (p...@wideshots.co.uk) wrote:
> >You've never heard of Adobe Premiere, Kdenlive, Apple Final Cut, Apple
> >Logic, Audacity, Cubase, Ardour, Blender? That's OK. Now you have
>
> Using the examples of video editing packages is rather disingenuous
> as they are all project based programs that wo
You've never heard of Adobe Premiere, Kdenlive, Apple Final Cut, Apple
Logic, Audacity, Cubase, Ardour, Blender? That's OK. Now you have
Using the examples of video editing packages is rather disingenuous as
they are all project based programs that work on the expectation of
combining multiple
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:28:31 +0200
> Since Linux is all in favour of freedom of choice
It's just a kernel. Software neither feels, nor judges, nor favours.
> how about offering the user an export / save choice in the Preferences
> dialog
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:28:31 +0200
"Uniklaps" wrote:
> When you open a jpg-file in GIMP 2.8 and make changes and save this again
> as jpg, you cannot re-change the changes you made (if file is closed). If
> changes are not necessary, GIMP can save as tif or jpg. (But are you always
> sure, that y
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Crew wrote:
> If the discussion has had thousands of comments in the past it's pretty
> clear it's at least contentious.
There's that old war trick: crawl towards the opposing army in the
dark and make as much noise as possible like there's an army of you.
I'm so
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Andrew & Bridget wrote:
> Just because a program does not perform the way you would like it to,
> doesn't make it an inferior program. GIMP is a very powerful Image Editing
> program that thousands of people use day to day. For every one that states
> in this forum
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Crew wrote:
> I don't know any other program that works in such a non-standard way.
You've never heard of Adobe Premiere, Kdenlive, Apple Final Cut, Apple
Logic, Audacity, Cubase, Ardour, Blender? That's OK. Now you have :)
> There's been some good work done to i
Just because a program does not perform the way you would like it to,
doesn't make it an inferior program. GIMP is a very powerful Image
Editing program that thousands of people use day to day. For every one
that states in this forum that it is a regression there is probably as
many that like t
In case you are not just phishing (which is unlikely, as there are
several such emails posted recently:-)
Given the way Adobe are moving to a subscription model, there are going
to be a lot of new users like myself seriously looking at The Gimp in
future.
The recent addition of colour manageme
Hi Crew,
On 14 Jun 13 16:08 Crew said:
> As a potential new user to The Gimp, I've found the lack of a
> conventional save command to be TERRIBLE.
You're wrong!
The problem is NOT a lack of conventional Save command, rather a lack
of conventional Import command!
The program "opens" non-nativ
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