Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-12-04 Thread Gauthier Östervall
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Matthieu Moy matthieu@grenoble-inp.fr wrote: One thing the command-line does well is to give names to concepts (basically, command names, option names, ...). It's easy to write in a tutorial or an email run the command 'git foo'. It's less easy to write

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-12-04 Thread Chris Packham
On 19/11/13 06:11, Matthieu Moy wrote: I was wondering whether others had similar (or not) experience. In particular, as a teacher, I'm wondering whether I should push my students towards the GUI in the IDE, or advise them to keep using the command-line (we teach them git with the command-line

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-19 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:42:26 +0100 Philippe Vaucher philippe.vauc...@gmail.com wrote: [...] When they understand git reasonably (or if they are not lazy people and willing to learn), then show them full integrations like TortoiseGit (or probably the Netbeans plugin), which are nice when

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-19 Thread Thomas Koch
On Monday, November 18, 2013 06:11:54 PM Matthieu Moy wrote: Hi, I'm normally an Emacs+command-line user, but I also use Eclipse or Netbeans on some projects. I tried using EGit and the Netbeans plugin for Git, but found the GUI both more comlex and less powerful than the command-line. I

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-19 Thread Noufal Ibrahim KV
Matthieu Moy matthieu@grenoble-inp.fr writes: [...] I was wondering whether others had similar (or not) experience. In particular, as a teacher, I'm wondering whether I should push my students towards the GUI in the IDE, or advise them to keep using the command-line (we teach them git

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-19 Thread Junio C Hamano
Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro writes: I'm a software engineer now with an education as a high school teacher. From a theoretical point of view it's preferable to avoid any abstraction done by a GUI and use commandline Git. Only gitk is useful to have a visual _feedback_ of the actions done

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-19 Thread Keshav Kini
Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro writes: But also from experience I can tell that without exception everybody whom I teached Git understood it only after being introduced to the basic concepts of Git and how to inspect and operate them on the commandline. Others told me from similar

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-19 Thread Matthieu Moy
Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com writes: Perhaps I am being naïve, but I would expect that a GUI is a much better vehicle to help users build the right mental model. One thing the command-line does well is to give names to concepts (basically, command names, option names, ...). It's easy to

Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-18 Thread Matthieu Moy
Hi, I'm normally an Emacs+command-line user, but I also use Eclipse or Netbeans on some projects. I tried using EGit and the Netbeans plugin for Git, but found the GUI both more comlex and less powerful than the command-line. I end-up using command-line git in a terminal, outside the IDE (and do

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-18 Thread Philippe Vaucher
I'm normally an Emacs+command-line user, but I also use Eclipse or Netbeans on some projects. Did you give magit a try? It's really an awesome emacs plugin, which gives me pretty much the same control as the command line experience without the pain. Ask me more about if if you're interested.

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-18 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:11:54 +, Matthieu Moy wrote: ... I was wondering whether others had similar (or not) experience. Similar. When I used eclipse I didn't even try to use the plugins and just stayed on the command line. (Well, almost, but back then jgit couldn't deal with submodules which

Re: Command-line git Vs IDE+plugin?

2013-11-18 Thread Matthieu Moy
Philippe Vaucher philippe.vauc...@gmail.com writes: I'm normally an Emacs+command-line user, but I also use Eclipse or Netbeans on some projects. Did you give magit a try? I've used the Git backend for DVC in the past. I gave Magit a try very long ago, and found DVC superior at that time (I