Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Christian Couder
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stefan Beller sbel...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Git Annotate? Git Praise as opposed to blame? Git Who as a pun on the subcommand structure which doesn't always follows grammar? Yeah these

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Christian Couder
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Thanks! [...] I obviously do not know how the actual contents would

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stefan Beller sbel...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Git Annotate? Git Praise as opposed to blame? Git Who as a pun on the subcommand structure which

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: https://github.com/git/git.github.io/pull/15 I would love to have/use something like this in the GitMinutes podcast. Perhaps in addition to the

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-17 Thread Christian Couder
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen tfn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: https://github.com/git/git.github.io/pull/15 I would love to

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread David Lang
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would Git Review (or Git Monthly Review, or

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread Stefan Beller
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Git Annotate? Git Praise as opposed to blame? Git Who as a pun on the subcommand structure which doesn't always follows grammar? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe git in the body of a message to

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread Junio C Hamano
David Lang da...@lang.hm writes: On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would Git

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread David Lang
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: David Lang da...@lang.hm writes: On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Junio C Hamano wrote: Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Just one suggestion on

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread Christian Couder
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Randall S. Becker rsbec...@nexbridge.com wrote: On March 15, 2015 6:19 PM Christian Couder wrote: snip Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would Git Review (or Git Monthly Review, or replace your favourite how-often-per-period-ly in its

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-16 Thread David Kastrup
Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Randall S. Becker rsbec...@nexbridge.com wrote: On March 15, 2015 6:19 PM Christian Couder wrote: snip Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would Git Review (or Git Monthly Review, or

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Christian Couder
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Jeff King p...@peff.net writes: Seeing my name in shortlog was nice, but not that exciting. I submitted a patch, it was taken, and of course it ends up in any automated lists of authors. What was much more rewarding was

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Christian Couder
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: I would suspect that those who agree with you would appreciate if you or somebody volunteered

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I wrote something about a potential Git Rev News news letter: I read it. Sounds promising. Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would Git Review (or Git Monthly Review, or replace your favourite how-often-per-period-ly in

RE: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-15 Thread Randall S. Becker
On March 15, 2015 6:19 PM Christian Couder wrote: snip Just one suggestion on the name and half a comment. How would Git Review (or Git Monthly Review, or replace your favourite how-often-per-period-ly in its name) sound? I meant it to sound similar to academic journals that summarize and

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:53:22PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: I'd first suggest to employ icase to unify *-By and *-by. Perhaps we would want a recommended list somewhere in SubmittingPatches to discourage people from getting too creative? There's already such list in SubmittingPatches, so

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Fredrik Gustafsson iv...@iveqy.com writes: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:53:22PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: I'd first suggest to employ icase to unify *-By and *-by. Perhaps we would want a recommended list somewhere in SubmittingPatches to discourage people from getting too creative?

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Jeff King
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 02:28:03PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: Jeff King p...@peff.net writes: Or something along those lines. The wording and indentation of the message could probably use tweaking. And there is a bash-ism in the script. :) OK, I've updated the Announce script on the

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King p...@peff.net writes: Seeing my name in shortlog was nice, but not that exciting. I submitted a patch, it was taken, and of course it ends up in any automated lists of authors. What was much more rewarding was being mentioned specifically in A note from the maintainer as a helpful

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King p...@peff.net writes: It is comprised of 41 non-merge commits... is fine. Thanks; very much appreciated. New contributors who made this release possible are as follows. Welcome to the Git development community! Aleksander Boruch-Gruszecki, Aleksey Vasenev, Patrick

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Jeff King
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:05:43PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: Jeff King p...@peff.net writes: I spent many years as a type C contributor, and I remember how nice it was to see my name mentioned occasionally as a useful person. I guess that everybody is different ;-) After throwing

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-12 Thread Jeff King
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 03:36:46PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: I hadn't thought about it when I originally suggested this, but of course new is not strictly meaningful in a world with branches. If you contribute a bugfix on top of v2.0.0 that goes to maint, do you get to be new in v2.0.1

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King p...@peff.net writes: Or something along those lines. The wording and indentation of the message could probably use tweaking. And there is a bash-ism in the script. :) OK, I've updated the Announce script on the 'todo' branch. The announcement for 2.3.2 I sent out earlier as

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: I would suspect that those who agree with you would appreciate if you or somebody volunteered to act as our CKDO (chief kudos distribution officer). I do not think I

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Andrew Ardill
On 12 March 2015 at 08:28, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: OK, I've updated the Announce script on the 'todo' branch. The announcement for 2.3.2 I sent out earlier as $gmane/264975 would have looked like this. I think the changes are excellent, and think they add a lot of value

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Jeff King p...@peff.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:36:34PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: Or if that would make the release notes too cumbersome to review, what about using systemd's method? systemd's release notes include a contributions from section

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Jeff King
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:38:21AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: I can add shortlog --no-merges -s -n v2.3.0..v2.4.0 at the end of the e-mail when the release notes is sent out. That might be a good enough balance between the usefulness of the release notes to its customers and giving

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Jeff King
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:36:34PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: Or if that would make the release notes too cumbersome to review, what about using systemd's method? systemd's release notes include a contributions from section at the very end that lists everyone with a patch included in

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Christian Couder
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I don't want to write again about each of these points now. I am more interested in discussing a good strategy to try to revert the sad trend of Git developers being

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Duy Nguyen pclo...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Duy Nguyen pclo...@gmail.com writes: ... We may want to acknowledge review efforts as well, by grepping Helped-by:, Reviewed-by:... Agreed. Something along the lines of $

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jeff King p...@peff.net writes: I spent many years as a type C contributor, and I remember how nice it was to see my name mentioned occasionally as a useful person. I guess that everybody is different ;-) After throwing a small patch at ROCKbox (git.rockbox.org) back when they were still

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-11 Thread Duy Nguyen
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Duy Nguyen pclo...@gmail.com writes: ... We may want to acknowledge review efforts as well, by grepping Helped-by:, Reviewed-by:... Agreed. Something along the lines of $ git shortlog --no-merges -s -n -t

Re: Promoting Git developers (was: Bashing freelancers)

2015-03-10 Thread Christian Couder
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Michael J Gruber g...@drmicha.warpmail.net wrote: Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: Hi, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic atmosphere

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I don't want to write again about each of these points now. I am more interested in discussing a good strategy to try to revert the sad trend of Git developers being promoted less and less, because I think that it is really very important.

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Duy Nguyen
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Jason St. John jstj...@purdue.edu wrote: Or if that would make the release notes too cumbersome to review, what about using systemd's method? systemd's release notes include a contributions from section at the very end that lists everyone with a patch included

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jason St. John jstj...@purdue.edu writes: In the Git release notes for something like git foo learned a new option --bar, a simple (Thanks|Kudos) to John Smith at the end of each bullet point may be a good way to recognize developers in a concise manner without needing to dig through the

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Duy Nguyen pclo...@gmail.com writes: ... We may want to acknowledge review efforts as well, by grepping Helped-by:, Reviewed-by:... Agreed. Something along the lines of $ git shortlog --no-merges -s -n -t Helped-by -t Reviewed-by v2.3.0.. 6 4 0 Michael Haggerty 3 0 1

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Jason St. John
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Christian Couder christian.cou...@gmail.com writes: I don't want to write again about each of these points now. I am more interested in discussing a good strategy to try to revert the sad trend of Git developers being

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-10 Thread Junio C Hamano
Michael J Gruber g...@drmicha.warpmail.net writes: I guess we have at least 3 kinds of people here: A) Paid to do Git development, at least as part of their job. B) Freelancers who don't get paid directly for doing git but hope to profit from their git efforts directly or indirectly. C)

Re: Promoting Git developers (was: Bashing freelancers)

2015-03-09 Thread Michael J Gruber
Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: Hi, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic atmosphere against freelancers doing Git development. My opinion on this is that the Git

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-09 Thread David Kastrup
Michael J Gruber g...@drmicha.warpmail.net writes: Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: Hi, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic atmosphere against freelancers doing Git

Re: Promoting Git developers

2015-03-09 Thread Philip Oakley
From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Michael J Gruber g...@drmicha.warpmail.net writes: Christian Couder venit, vidit, dixit 07.03.2015 08:18: Hi, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: At some point of time I think it may be worth reevaluating the toxic atmosphere