Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Linus Torvalds wrote: On May 12, 2014 8:35 AM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: This move is already under way, but suddenly Junio changed his mind. That suddenly wouldn't have anything to do with you being an ass and difficult as usual, arguing about everything and

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Felipe Contreras wrote: Linus Torvalds wrote: Felipe, stop this stupid blaming of everybody but yourself. Show me evidence that this decision was my fault. Junio certainly hasn't said so. You just have no idea what we are talking about. Here, let me show you. Junio, can you answer these

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Michael Haggerty
On 05/12/2014 01:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Recently Junio said he was willing to hear the opinion of other people regarding the move from contrib to the core[1]. This move is already under way, but suddenly Junio changed his mind. I agree with Junio. There are good technical arguments

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Stefan Beller
2014-05-12 10:12 GMT+02:00 Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com: Felipe Contreras wrote: Linus Torvalds wrote: Felipe, stop this stupid blaming of everybody but yourself. Show me evidence that this decision was my fault. Junio certainly hasn't said so. You just have no idea what we

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
Michael, Thank you for writing this, I have to see I agree completely. As a mostly lurker on this list, I tend to skip any thread Felipe is participating in, as it tends to quickly spiral out of control. This is also the main reason for me not to actively participate a bit more, I prefer

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Michael Haggerty wrote: On 05/12/2014 01:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Recently Junio said he was willing to hear the opinion of other people regarding the move from contrib to the core[1]. This move is already under way, but suddenly Junio changed his mind. I agree with Junio. There

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Haggerty mhag...@alum.mit.edu writes: This email is written in sorrow, not in anger. Felipe, you seem to have so much potential. If you would put as much effort in conducting social interactions as you do in coding, [...] I think that's where you are mistaken. We are not talking

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Michael Haggerty
On 05/12/2014 12:37 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Michael Haggerty wrote: On 05/12/2014 01:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Recently Junio said he was willing to hear the opinion of other people regarding the move from contrib to the core[1]. This move is already under way, but suddenly Junio

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Stefan Beller wrote: 2014-05-12 10:12 GMT+02:00 Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com: Felipe Contreras wrote: Linus Torvalds wrote: Felipe, stop this stupid blaming of everybody but yourself. Show me evidence that this decision was my fault. Junio certainly hasn't said so. You

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Michael Haggerty wrote: On 05/12/2014 12:37 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Michael Haggerty wrote: On 05/12/2014 01:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Recently Junio said he was willing to hear the opinion of other people regarding the move from contrib to the core[1]. This move is already

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Paolo Ciarrocchi wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Michael Haggerty mhag...@alum.mit.eduwrote: Felipe, you seem to have so much potential. If you would put as much effort in conducting social interactions as you do in coding, the whole balance would change entirely, and any

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread David Kastrup
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: Michael Haggerty wrote: On 05/12/2014 12:37 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Michael Haggerty wrote: On 05/12/2014 01:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Recently Junio said he was willing to hear the opinion of other people regarding the move

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Michael Haggerty
On 05/12/2014 02:29 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Michael Haggerty wrote: [...] 2. Moving git-remote-hg into the core would require you to continue your presence on the Git mailing list. That is another red herring. Moving them back to the contrib/ area which is what Junio proposed would

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Paolo Ciarrocchi
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: Paolo Ciarrocchi wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Michael Haggerty mhag...@alum.mit.eduwrote: While I agree with you the this project is managed in a bit conservative way Only a bit? I don't

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Stefan Beller
2014-05-12 15:45 GMT+02:00 Paolo Ciarrocchi paolo.ciarroc...@gmail.com: No, sorry but I'm NOT interested in lying to git community. It's not lying. See the Helped-By: lines in git.git commits. Often the help was formulating a correct and easy-to-understand commit message. -- To unsubscribe

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Paolo Ciarrocchi wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: Paolo Ciarrocchi wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Michael Haggerty mhag...@alum.mit.eduwrote: While I agree with you the this project is managed in a bit conservative

Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-12 Thread Felipe Contreras
Michael Haggerty wrote: On 05/12/2014 02:29 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Michael Haggerty wrote: [...] 2. Moving git-remote-hg into the core would require you to continue your presence on the Git mailing list. That is another red herring. Moving them back to the contrib/ area which

Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

2014-05-11 Thread Felipe Contreras
Hi, Recently Junio said he was willing to hear the opinion of other people regarding the move from contrib to the core[1]. This move is already under way, but suddenly Junio changed his mind. I have repeatedly asked him to clarify what argument changed his mind, but he hasn't done so. Hopefully