Re: What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-14 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:59:41PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
 * bc/gpg-sign-everywhere (2014-02-11) 9 commits
  - pull: add the --gpg-sign option.
  - rebase: add the --gpg-sign option
  - rebase: parse options in stuck-long mode
  - rebase: don't try to match -M option
  - rebase: remove useless arguments check
  - am: add the --gpg-sign option
  - am: parse options in stuck-long mode
  - git-sh-setup.sh: add variable to use the stuck-long mode
  - cherry-pick, revert: add the --gpg-sign option
 
  Teach --gpg-sign option to many commands that create commits.
 
  Changes to some scripted Porcelains use unsafe variable
  substitutions and still need to be tightened.
 
  Will merge to 'next'.

Junio, did you want a reroll with that fixed commit message, or will you
fix it up yourself?

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Re: What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-14 Thread Junio C Hamano
brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net writes:

  Changes to some scripted Porcelains use unsafe variable
  substitutions and still need to be tightened.
 
  Will merge to 'next'.

 Junio, did you want a reroll with that fixed commit message, or will you
 fix it up yourself?

I haven't merged them yet---if there are need to update any one of
them, please reroll a replacement set.

Thanks.
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Re: What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-14 Thread Andrew Eikum
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:59:41PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
 As a workaround to make life easier for third-party tools, the
 upcoming major release will be called Git 1.9.0 (not Git 1.9).
 The first maintenance release for it will be Git 1.9.1, and the
 major release after Git 1.9.0 will either be Git 2.0.0 or Git
 1.10.0.
 

Apologies if this ground has been tread before, but has there been a
version numbering discussion? A quick google didn't seem to turn
anything up.

This seems to be an opportune time to drop the useless first digit.
Explicitly, the major release numbers would be: 1.8, 1.9, then 2.0,
3.0, 4.0, etc, with the 2nd digit would take the meaning of the
current 3rd digit and so on.

Andrew
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Re: What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-14 Thread Junio C Hamano
Andrew Eikum aei...@codeweavers.com writes:

 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:59:41PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
 As a workaround to make life easier for third-party tools, the
 upcoming major release will be called Git 1.9.0 (not Git 1.9).
 The first maintenance release for it will be Git 1.9.1, and the
 major release after Git 1.9.0 will either be Git 2.0.0 or Git
 1.10.0.
 

 Apologies if this ground has been tread before, but has there been a
 version numbering discussion? A quick google didn't seem to turn
 anything up.

 This seems to be an opportune time to drop the useless first digit.
 Explicitly, the major release numbers would be: 1.8, 1.9, then 2.0,
 3.0, 4.0, etc, with the 2nd digit would take the meaning of the
 current 3rd digit and so on.

Considered, and discarded.

cf. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/241498

When you see a version number vX.Y.0 next time, think of it as just
play vX.Y without the third digit, and you will be fine.  People's
script cannot learn the think of it as ... part overnight, and
that is why we have the .0 there.
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Re: What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-14 Thread Andrew Eikum
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:10:05PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
 Andrew Eikum aei...@codeweavers.com writes:
 
  On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:59:41PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
  As a workaround to make life easier for third-party tools, the
  upcoming major release will be called Git 1.9.0 (not Git 1.9).
  The first maintenance release for it will be Git 1.9.1, and the
  major release after Git 1.9.0 will either be Git 2.0.0 or Git
  1.10.0.
  
 
  Apologies if this ground has been tread before, but has there been a
  version numbering discussion? A quick google didn't seem to turn
  anything up.
 
  This seems to be an opportune time to drop the useless first digit.
  Explicitly, the major release numbers would be: 1.8, 1.9, then 2.0,
  3.0, 4.0, etc, with the 2nd digit would take the meaning of the
  current 3rd digit and so on.
 
 Considered, and discarded.
 
 cf. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/241498
 

Thank you for the link, it hadn't turned up in my searching.

 When you see a version number vX.Y.0 next time, think of it as just
 play vX.Y without the third digit, and you will be fine.  People's
 script cannot learn the think of it as ... part overnight, and
 that is why we have the .0 there.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant the useless digit is the first one,
which is currently 1. and has been hanging around for a bit over
eight years.

My worry is having 2. hang around for another decade or longer. I'd
rather see X.0.0 denote a major feature release (currently represented
as 1.X.0), with X.Y.0 for minor enhancements and X.Y.Z for bugfix. So
the major release version sequence would become 1.8.0, 1.9.0, 2.0.0,
3.0.0, with minor releases like 2.1.0, and bugfix releases like 2.1.1.

It seems reasonable to expect fewer backwards incompatible changes in
the future as Git has become more mature. This reduces the utility of
reserving X.0.0 for major backwards incompatible changes, especially
considering it's already been eight years for the first increment.

Andrew
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Re: What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-14 Thread Junio C Hamano
Andrew Eikum aei...@codeweavers.com writes:

 My worry is having 2. hang around for another decade or longer. I'd
 rather see X.0.0 denote a major feature release (currently represented
 as 1.X.0), with X.Y.0 for minor enhancements and X.Y.Z for bugfix.

We need three categories: (1) potentially incompatible, (2) feature,
(3) fixes-only.  We have been doing two levels of features by having
both second and third numbers and we are flattening by removing the
second one.

 It seems reasonable to expect fewer backwards incompatible changes in
 the future as Git has become more mature. This reduces the utility of
 reserving X.0.0 for major backwards incompatible changes, especially
 considering it's already been eight years for the first increment.

We are not done yet, far from it.  If we can stay at 2.X longer,
that is a very good thing.

If we followed your numbering scheme, you rob from the users a way
to learn about a rare event, a potentially backward-incompatible
change.  How would you tell your users when the version gap really
matters?  After hearing You need to plan carefully when you update
to version 47 and then updating to version 47 (or the user may skip
that version), the user will learn about a new version 48 and does
not hear such a you need to be careful.  What should he think?  No
news is a good news?  He should refrain from updating because the
last one was a big one?  What if the last time he updated was to
version 43, stayed at that version for a long time without paying
much attention (as Git grows more and more mature), and now we have
version 50 after having a large compatibility gap at version 47 he
did not pay much attention because he was skipping?

The rarer the important event is, the more necessary that the
importance is communicated clearly.

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Re: What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-14 Thread Andrew Eikum
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 01:08:32PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
 Andrew Eikum aei...@codeweavers.com writes:
 
  My worry is having 2. hang around for another decade or longer. I'd
  rather see X.0.0 denote a major feature release (currently represented
  as 1.X.0), with X.Y.0 for minor enhancements and X.Y.Z for bugfix.
 
 We need three categories: (1) potentially incompatible, (2) feature,
 (3) fixes-only.  We have been doing two levels of features by having
 both second and third numbers and we are flattening by removing the
 second one.
 
  It seems reasonable to expect fewer backwards incompatible changes in
  the future as Git has become more mature. This reduces the utility of
  reserving X.0.0 for major backwards incompatible changes, especially
  considering it's already been eight years for the first increment.
 
 We are not done yet, far from it.  If we can stay at 2.X longer,
 that is a very good thing.
 

Okay, fair enough. Thanks for explaining :)

Andrew
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What's cooking in git.git (Feb 2014, #04; Wed, 12)

2014-02-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Here are the topics that have been cooking.  Commits prefixed with
'-' are only in 'pu' (proposed updates) while commits prefixed with
'+' are in 'next'.

As a workaround to make life easier for third-party tools, the
upcoming major release will be called Git 1.9.0 (not Git 1.9).
The first maintenance release for it will be Git 1.9.1, and the
major release after Git 1.9.0 will either be Git 2.0.0 or Git
1.10.0.

You can find the changes described here in the integration branches
of the repositories listed at

http://git-blame.blogspot.com/p/git-public-repositories.html

--
[New Topics]

* al/docs (2014-02-11) 4 commits
 - docs/git-blame: explain more clearly the example pickaxe use
 - docs/git-clone: clarify use of --no-hardlinks option
 - docs/git-remote: capitalize first word of initial blurb
 - docs/merge-strategies: remove hyphen from mis-merges

 A handful of documentation updates, all trivially harmless.

 Will merge to 'next'.


* jk/test-ports (2014-02-10) 2 commits
 - tests: auto-set git-daemon port
 - tests: auto-set LIB_HTTPD_PORT from test name
 (this branch is tangled with nd/http-fetch-shallow-fix.)

 Avoid having to assign port number to be used in tests manually.

 Will merge to 'next'.


* nd/daemonize-gc (2014-02-10) 2 commits
 - gc: config option for running --auto in background
 - daemon: move daemonize() to libgit.a

 Allow running gc --auto in the background.

 Will merge to 'next'.


* nd/gitignore-trailing-whitespace (2014-02-10) 2 commits
 - dir: ignore trailing spaces in exclude patterns
 - dir: warn about trailing spaces in exclude patterns

 Warn and then ignore trailing whitespaces in .gitignore files,
 unless they are quoted for fnmatch(3), e.g. path\ .


* nd/log-show-linear-break (2014-02-10) 1 commit
 - log: add --show-linear-break to help see non-linear history


* ss/completion-rec-sub-fetch-push (2014-02-11) 1 commit
 - completion: teach --recurse-submodules to fetch, pull and push


* ks/tree-diff-more (2014-02-12) 16 commits
 - tree-diff: reuse base str(buf) memory on sub-tree recursion
 - tree-diff: no need to call full diff_tree_sha1 from show_path()
 - tree-diff: rework diff_tree interface to be sha1 based
 - tree-diff: remove special-case diff-emitting code for empty-tree cases
 - tree-diff: simplify tree_entry_pathcmp
 - tree-diff: show_path prototype is not needed anymore
 - tree-diff: rename compare_tree_entry - tree_entry_pathcmp
 - tree-diff: move all action-taking code out of compare_tree_entry()
 - tree-diff: don't assume compare_tree_entry() returns -1,0,1
 - FIXUP!
 - tree-diff: consolidate code for emitting diffs and recursion in one place
 - tree-diff: show_tree() is not needed
 - tree-diff: no need to pass match to skip_uninteresting()
 - tree-diff: no need to manually verify that there is no mode change for a path
 - combine-diff: move changed-paths scanning logic into its own function
 - combine-diff: move show_log_first logic/action out of paths scanning
 (this branch uses ks/combine-diff and ks/tree-diff-walk.)


* jh/note-trees-record-blobs (2014-02-12) 1 commit
 - notes: Disallow reusing non-blob as a note object


* jk/run-network-tests-by-default (2014-02-12) 1 commit
 - tests: turn on network daemon tests by default

 Teach make test to run networking tests when possible by default.

 Needs a bit more work.
 e.g. $gmane/242013

--
[Stalled]

* po/everyday-doc (2014-01-27) 1 commit
 - Make 'git help everyday' work

 This may make the said command to emit something, but the source is
 not meant to be formatted into a manual pages to begin with, and
 also its contents are a bit stale.  It may be a good first step in
 the right direction, but needs more work to at least get the
 mark-up right before public consumption.

 Will hold.


* jk/branch-at-publish-rebased (2014-01-17) 5 commits
 - t1507 (rev-parse-upstream): fix typo in test title
 - implement @{publish} shorthand
 - branch_get: provide per-branch pushremote pointers
 - branch_get: return early on error
 - sha1_name: refactor upstream_mark

 Give an easier access to the tracking branches from other side in
 a triangular workflow by introducing B@{publish} that works in a
 similar way to how B@{upstream} does.

 Meant to be used as a basis for whatever Ram wants to build on.

 Will hold.


* rb/merge-prepare-commit-msg-hook (2014-01-10) 4 commits
 - merge: drop unused arg from abort_commit method signature
 - merge: make prepare_to_commit responsible for write_merge_state
 - t7505: ensure cleanup after hook blocks merge
 - t7505: add missing 

 Expose more merge states (e.g. $GIT_DIR/MERGE_MODE) to hooks that
 run during git merge.  The log message stresses too much on one
 hook, prepare-commit-msg, but it would equally apply to other hooks
 like post-merge, I think.

 Waiting for a reroll.


* jl/submodule-recursive-checkout (2013-12-26) 5 commits
 - Teach checkout to recursively checkout