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Yeah I agree, better stick with libsoup then, although relying on an existing
component was an interesting idea.
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Regarding macOS, the way gio behaves I expect it will never work so better to
use libsoup (2 or 3, both are provided by gtk-osx). I can try again if I manage
to get tls work with libsoup - to be honest, I didn't try too hard last time
because I don't use neither of the plugins.
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> So it probably works provided one uses an up to date operating system. If
> anyone has access to a Windows 10/11 system, the artifacts of the CI build
> https://github.com/geany/geany-plugins/actions/runs/8850165013 contain the
> Geany and G-P installers for easy testing.
I was about to ask
> To confirm, the first is Windows? The second macOS? Both with GIO?
Only speaking for the macOS part - yes, the second message is on macOS with GIO.
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> `GET request failed: WinHttp error: SECURE_CHANNEL_ERROR`
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> `Unable to perform version check: Operation not supported`
To confirm, the first is Windows? The second macOS? Both with GIO?
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So I get
```
17:47:11.712578: Updatechecker MESSAGE : Checking for updates (querying URL
"https://geany.org/service/version/;)
17:47:14.085164: Updatechecker WARNING : Unable to perform version check:
Operation not supported
```
in debug messages and also the corresponding popup error :-(.
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> What do you mean, with GIO, with libsoup, with anything? If it doesn't work
> neither on macos not Windows, it starts to feel like nobody is gonna be using
> it
Yeah, it was with libsoup which, when using gtk-osx for building dependencies,
depends on gnutls:
@techee you don't want to be shipping TLS, that should be using a system
library, the last thing you need is to be constantly updating as CVEs are fixed
against it. If it doesn't use a system library then it shouldn't be available.
> nobody is gonna be using it
Its wrong on Linux, doesn't
> > I "think" it will work.
> > In detail this is, when querying https://geany.org/ I get an error: `GET
> > request failed: WinHttp error: SECURE_CHANNEL_ERROR`. […]
> > If I change the URL to query to https://httpbin.org/anything/version, the
> > HTTP request works fine and I get the expected
> I "think" it will work.
> In detail this is, when querying https://geany.org/ I get an error: `GET
> request failed: WinHttp error: SECURE_CHANNEL_ERROR`. […]
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> If I change the URL to query to https://httpbin.org/anything/version, the
> HTTP request works fine and I get the expected
> Guys, be a bit patient :D. I'll test this on Windows/MSYS2 later or in the
> next days.
I "think" it will work.
In detail this is, when querying https://geany.org I get an error: `GET request
failed: WinHttp error: SECURE_CHANNEL_ERROR`. But I guess this is not related
to the changes but
> @techee any chance you could check whether gvfs works with HTTP(S) under
> macos?
The thing is that I didn't even manage to get tls running correctly (it
compiled but https didn't work afterwards, probably some configuration issue)
so the updatechecker plugin isn't part of the macOS release.
> you never know what the future of the web holds
Yeah, its just a fad :grin:
> A new feature maybe, but well.
But the G* guys would never break API without a new major version
Anyway as you say, there are prototypes for all four plugins available, so if
we are not gonna kill any off
@elextr you never know what the future of the web holds, but I highly doubt a
security issue would ruin the current API. A new feature maybe, but well.
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You are
@b4n:
> Yet, does it currently matter?
Well if you are willing to maintain them in sync its fine. But who knows if a
security alert will require them to change libsoup3.1 API, its a web library
after all!
@xiota:
> You're too far ahead. Takes a while to catch up.
Just around longer, but
> Yeah, but then its back to four plugins to synchronise on
> libsoup3/webkit2gtk-4.1.
Yet, does it currently matter? I mean, the code is ready (but for more testing
maybe) for all four now, porting isn't what is holding back anymore. Sure the
question might arise again for a future libsoup4
> has again pointed out the point I made a while back about this
I realized later that you'd already said it. You're too far ahead. Takes a
while to catch up.
> four plugins to synchronise
This number could be reduced...
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> just keep using the libsoup implementation
Yeah, but then its back to four plugins to synchronise on
libsoup3/webkit2gtk-4.1.
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@elextr hence checking if it does :) But if it's a concern, just keep using
the libsoup implementation, it *ought* to work with HTTP as that's the whole
point of that library :smiley:
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> (win/mac – the platforms most likely to need update checkers).
has again pointed out the point I made a while back about this, its useful for
Windows and Macos, but for Linux it lies, just because the project releases a
new Geany does not put it in the distro they are using. And for
@techee any chance you could check whether gvfs works with HTTP(S) under macos?
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@xiota I don't think we need to explore a *different* additional HTTP library;
either we only use what's already part of the general GTK stack, or using
libsoup which is also a direct or indirect dependency of 3 other plugins is
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Guys, be a bit patient :D. I'll test this on Windows/MSYS2 later or in the next
days.
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I think a problem with gio method is depends on gvfs (gnome) and not available
on msys2 and brew (win/mac).
Wondering now about libcurl vs libsoup.
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