Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Andre Pang
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 04:18:53PM +0100, Simon Marlow wrote: > I think realistically we have to ditch readline for GHCi and > use something with a friendlier license. BSD's libedit is > a possibility. Here are some less tragic solutions I can think of: 1. Dual-license GHC under _both_ the

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread The Thought Assassin
On 12 Jun 2002, Alastair Reid wrote: > The copyright holder(s) of a piece of software is free to change which > license future copies are released under. It makes no difference > whether the license is GPL, BSD, Artistic, Microsoft EULA, or > whatever. Yes. > In other words, the GPL gives no mo

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread John Meacham
this is somewhat misleading, although the copyright holder may always distribute their works under another license, they cannot retroactivly change the license on previous releases. once something is gpl'ed it always is. the author may also release it under other licenses, but the gpled version is

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Alastair Reid
> :) The question here is, are you (plural) really trying to write > Free Software or just giving something away now, which will be > closed and hogged later? The copyright holder(s) of a piece of software is free to change which license future copies are released under. It makes no difference

GHC Ownership

2002-06-11 Thread Ashley Yakeley
At 2002-06-11 08:18, Simon Marlow wrote: >This is *so* annoying when all we're trying to do is write free software >here. This reminds me... who legally owns GHC? * the University of Glasgow? * Simon and Simon? * Microsoft? * many different people and institutions? -- Ashley Yakel

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Sven Moritz Hallberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11. June 2002 21:49, Wolfgang Thaller wrote: > > I'm being provocative, I know. I'm not trying to insult though, just to > > encourage a creative discussion. > > Me too. But I've never seen a flame war on any haskell list, so I trust > that

Updating the net package

2002-06-11 Thread Dominic Steinitz
I need to update the net package so that I can pass setSocketOption IP_TTL. This is a one line change. I'm using 5.02.2. There weren't any versions of Socket.hsc tagged as 5.02.2 in the CVS repository but there was one tagged Revision 1.2 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs] , Fri Aug 17

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Wolfgang Thaller
I'm being provocative, I know. I'm not trying to insult though, just to encourage a creative discussion. Me too. But I've never seen a flame war on any haskell list, so I trust that no one will be insulted if we present our differing opinions in a strong way. We'll just have to take this discussi

Re: GHC Gentoo Linux package

2002-06-11 Thread Sven Moritz Hallberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11. June 2002 19:58, Sigbjorn Finne wrote: > "Sven Moritz Hallberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... > > > 2) I read a comment somewhere (in some script or so) saying something > > along > > > the lines of "once we are cross-compiling

Re: GHC Gentoo Linux package

2002-06-11 Thread Sigbjorn Finne
"Sven Moritz Hallberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... > 2) I read a comment somewhere (in some script or so) saying something along > the lines of "once we are cross-compiling". Are there plans to make GHC able > to cross-compile? > That remark was put in there by GHC hall-of-famer Will "C

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Ketil Z Malde
"Simon Marlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But we do have to make GHCi "available under the GPL" whatever that > means. I assume it means I must be allowed to take GHCi and re-release it with modifications under GPL only. > Actually I'm dubious about the notion of compatible licenses - I > r

GHC Gentoo Linux package

2002-06-11 Thread Sven Moritz Hallberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, here it is. The GHC ebuild for Gentoo Linux has been incorporated in the official package tree (search http://www.gentoo.org/index-packages.html)! This means that it is available to anyone running Gentoo, so you can now safely claim to run on t

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Sven Moritz Hallberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11. June 2002 17:18, Simon Marlow wrote: > > I have a problem with the readline license that applies to ghc, and > > programs compiled with ghc. > > > > The readline library is under the GPL license. This means that any > > program (includi

HGL with GHC in Win32

2002-06-11 Thread S.J.Thompson
Can anyone help? I would like to run a program using the Haskell Graphics Library under GHC on Windows. HGL is listed as a package (when ghc is asked about its packages) but not actually distributed as a package with ghc-5.02.3. On trying to remedy this, - I am able to compile HGL by

RE: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Simon Marlow
> I have a problem with the readline license that applies to ghc, and > programs compiled with ghc. > > The readline library is under the GPL license. This means that any > program (including ghc) that links with this library must itself be > licensed under the GPL. *G* Yes, you're right.

RE: Dynamic Libraries on MacOS X

2002-06-11 Thread Simon Marlow
> And there's a problem: ghc-pkg uses Read, and that requires all the > fields to be there. It would be a Bad Idea to force everyone > to update > every single package.conf file out there. Is there any special reason > why it doesn't use the ParsePkgConf.y parser from > compiler/main? (Simon:

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Re: GPL license (possible solution)

2002-06-11 Thread MR K P SCHUPKE
Having Read the GPL license one solution for binary distributions may be to install in two packages - one for any GPL'd stuff, and one for the rest - if these are aggregated onto the same media the GPL only applies to the originally GPL'd stuff. This would be enough if the libraries are dynamical

possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-11 Thread Martin Norbäck
I have a problem with the readline license that applies to ghc, and programs compiled with ghc. The readline library is under the GPL license. This means that any program (including ghc) that links with this library must itself be licensed under the GPL. This is very unfortunate. I would suspect

Re: Dynamic Libraries on MacOS X

2002-06-11 Thread Wolfgang Thaller
On Dienstag, Juni 11, 2002, at 09:22 , Ashley Yakeley wrote: > They solve a similar problem in a quite different way. [...] > I think Wolfgang means [...] Exactly. > [...] add new package specification components, such as > "frameworks" and "frameworks_dir". They just need to be passed on to th

RE: Dynamic Libraries on MacOS X

2002-06-11 Thread Ashley Yakeley
At 2002-06-10 04:03, Simon Marlow wrote: >It sounds like frameworks are similar in concept to GHC's packages. They solve a similar problem in a quite different way. A framework is a "bundle": an actual directory with everything inside it, libraries, header files, localised strings, whatever, w