Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty
Sven Moritz Hallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, > On Wednesday 12. June 2002 10:12, Manuel M. T. Chakravarty wrote: > > Knowing the GHC developers for quite a while (and having had > > BSD versus GPL discussions with them before), my answer > > would be that they are perfectly trustworthy, but su

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Sven Moritz Hallberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12. June 2002 12:03, Simon Marlow wrote: > Well, nothing like a good license debate to wake everyone up ;-) Anyone > heard of a "bikeshed" discussion before? Hm, no clue, never heard that term... ;-) No, really, though. > Firstly, let

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Sven Moritz Hallberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12. June 2002 13:00, you wrote: > Sven Moritz Hallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I see the people being very nice. But there is the question whether MS > > would draw them away from GHC if it desides to go full-scale with > > someth

RE: Updating the net package

2002-06-12 Thread Simon Marlow
> Thanks for your help on this. I can't quite see how you got > what you did. > I followed the instructions in the cvs cheat sheet. > > 211 export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs > 213 cvs login > 216 cvs co -r ghc-5-02 fpconfig You want ghc-5-0

Updating the net package

2002-06-12 Thread D.J.Steinitz
Simon, Thanks for your help on this. I can't quite see how you got what you did. I followed the instructions in the cvs cheat sheet. 211 export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs 213 cvs login 216 cvs co -r ghc-5-02 fpconfig 217 cd fptools/ 225 cvs checkout ghc 2

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Ketil Z. Malde
Sven Moritz Hallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I see the people being very nice. But there is the question whether MS would > draw them away from GHC if it desides to go full-scale with something based > on GHC. This is rather irrelevant in the context of licenses -- MS could do this anywa

RE: Updating the net package

2002-06-12 Thread Simon Marlow
> This is a one line change. I'm using 5.02.2. There weren't > any versions of > Socket.hsc tagged as 5.02.2 in the CVS repository but there > was one tagged > > Revision 1.2 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs] , Fri Aug 17 > 12:51:08 2001 UTC (9 months, 3 weeks ago) by simonmar > Bran

RE: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Simon Marlow
Well, nothing like a good license debate to wake everyone up ;-) Anyone heard of a "bikeshed" discussion before? Firstly, let me make it clear that GHC won't be switching to the GPL or even a dual license in the forseeable future. The University of Glasgow agreed to the BSD license, and frankl

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Andre Pang
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:10:15AM +0200, Wolfgang Thaller wrote: > > 3. Developer wins because lots of people like the GPL, and > >any development they do with the GPL is guaranteed to go > >back to the community. This may not occur all the time if > >you only use

RE: GHC Ownership

2002-06-12 Thread Simon Marlow
> At 2002-06-11 08:18, Simon Marlow wrote: > > >This is *so* annoying when all we're trying to do is write > free software > >here. > > This reminds me... who legally owns GHC? > > * the University of Glasgow? > > * Simon and Simon? > > * Microsoft? > > * many different people and i

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Sven Moritz Hallberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12. June 2002 10:12, Manuel M. T. Chakravarty wrote: > Knowing the GHC developers for quite a while (and having had > BSD versus GPL discussions with them before), my answer > would be that they are perfectly trustworthy, but suffer > fro

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Ketil Z. Malde
Wolfgang Thaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 1. Dual-license GHC under _both_ the current GHC license and >> the GPL Not including the parts that aren't allowed, I suppose, i.e. Readline the library, and the readline functionality of GHCi. The library is easy to avoid for developer

The readline issue

2002-06-12 Thread Martin Norbäck
Sorry for starting this GPL flame war. It was not my intention. I'm not worried about the license on ghc itself, but more on the fact that by using ghc to compile non-gpl programs you can violate the readline license. It seems steps are being taken to avoid this, by putting the Readline module i

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty
Sven Moritz Hallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, > On Tuesday 11. June 2002 17:18, Simon Marlow wrote: > > > I have a problem with the readline license that applies to ghc, and > > > programs compiled with ghc. > > > > > > The readline library is under the GPL license. This means that any > > > pr

Re: possible readline license problem with ghc and -package util

2002-06-12 Thread Wolfgang Thaller
Here are some less tragic solutions I can think of: 1. Dual-license GHC under _both_ the current GHC license and the GPL 2. User wins because they don't have to deal with the GPL if they don't want to. Agreed. 3. Developer wins because lots of people like the GPL, and any development they do wi