Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-12 Thread Lennart Augustsson
I had it pretty well worked out for single parameter type classes, but I couldn't see any nice extension to multiple parameters. On Dec 11, 2007 5:30 PM, Simon Peyton-Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | If it really would work ok we should get it fully specified and > | implemented so we can fix

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-12 Thread Twan van Laarhoven
Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: Concerning (b) here's a suggestion. As now, require that every instance requires an instance declaration. So, in the main example of http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Class_system_extension_proposal, for a new data type T you'd write instance Monad T where

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-12 Thread Yitzchak Gale
Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: Given "instance C T where ...", for any method 'm' not defined by "...": for every class D of which C is a superclass where there is an instance for (D T) see if the instance gives a binding for 'm' If this search finds exactly one bin

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread David Menendez
On Dec 11, 2007 1:29 PM, apfelmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without the automatic search, this is already possible > > class Functor f where > fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b > > class Functor m => Monad m where > return :: a -> m a > (>>=) :: m a -> (a -> m b) -

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread apfelmus
Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: b) having instance declarations silently spring into existence Concerning (b) here's a suggestion. As now, require that every instance requires an instance declaration. So, in the main example of http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Class_system_extension_proposal, for a n

RE: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| If it really would work ok we should get it fully specified and | implemented so we can fix the most obvious class hierarchy problems in a | nice backwards compatible way. Things are only supposed to be candidates | for Haskell' if they're already implemented. Getting it fully specified is the f

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 16:38 +, Ross Paterson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 04:26:52PM +, Simon Marlow wrote: > > Duncan Coutts wrote: > >> On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 07:07 -0800, Stefan O'Rear wrote: > >>> This is almost exactly the > >>> http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Class_system_extension

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread Ross Paterson
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 04:26:52PM +, Simon Marlow wrote: > Duncan Coutts wrote: >> On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 07:07 -0800, Stefan O'Rear wrote: >>> This is almost exactly the >>> http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Class_system_extension_proposal; that >>> page has some discussion of implementation issu

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread Simon Marlow
Duncan Coutts wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 07:07 -0800, Stefan O'Rear wrote: This is almost exactly the http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Class_system_extension_proposal; that page has some discussion of implementation issues. Oh yes, so it is. Did this proposal get discussed on any mailing list

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 07:07 -0800, Stefan O'Rear wrote: > This is almost exactly the > http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Class_system_extension_proposal; that > page has some discussion of implementation issues. Oh yes, so it is. Did this proposal get discussed on any mailing list? I'd like to see

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread David Menendez
On Dec 11, 2007 9:20 AM, Duncan Coutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So my suggestion is that we let classes declare default implementations > of methods from super-classes. Does this proposal have any unintended consequences? I'm not sure. > Please discuss :-) It creates ambiguity if two class

Re: [Haskell-cafe] class default method proposal

2007-12-11 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:20:52PM +, Duncan Coutts wrote: > I'd just like to float an idea that's related to the Class Alias > proposal[1] but is perhaps somewhat simpler. > > We all know that Functor should have been a superclass of Monad, and > indeed we now know that Applicative should be