Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-28 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Johan, On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 03:06:39PM -0700, Johan Tibell wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Ian Lynagh ig...@earth.li wrote: If a GHC release needs an unreleased change in one of the libraries, and the maintainer (for whatever reason) is not responding to e-mails, should

RE: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-28 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| Has maintainer's not being responsive been a problem for GHC in the | past? | | Yes. Some of the upstreams respond so fast that it makes my head spin, | while others often either don't respond or continually promise to get to | things soon. (again, these are good, well-meaning people,

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-28 Thread Johan Tibell
Hi Ian, On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Ian Lynagh ig...@earth.li wrote: You didn't give a clear answer to my question. Am I right in thinking that your answer would be Yes, the GHC release should be delayed indefinitely? I did answer it, just not with a yes or no as it's a false dichotomy.

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-28 Thread Johan Tibell
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones simo...@microsoft.com wrote: |   Has maintainer's not being responsive been a problem for GHC in the |   past? | |  Yes. Some of the upstreams respond so fast that it makes my head spin, |  while others often either don't respond or

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-27 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:30:02PM -0700, Johan Tibell wrote: I just want to see things changed. :) We're happy to try to improve things, but I'm not sure what change you want exactly. We could change the default for GHC stable branches to: * Use the tag for the latest release, unless that

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-27 Thread Johan Tibell
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Paolo Capriotti p.caprio...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Johan Tibell johan.tib...@gmail.com wrote: * Some libraries will need to have version bumps, which means that other  libraries will need to loosen their dependencies, which means

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-27 Thread Johan Tibell
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Ian Lynagh i...@well-typed.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:30:02PM -0700, Johan Tibell wrote: I just want to see things changed. :) We're happy to try to improve things, but I'm not sure what change you want exactly. I want GHC to stop releasing other

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-27 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42:24AM -0700, Johan Tibell wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Ian Lynagh i...@well-typed.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:30:02PM -0700, Johan Tibell wrote: I just want to see things changed. :) We're happy to try to improve things, but I'm not sure

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-27 Thread Johan Tibell
Hi, On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Ian Lynagh ig...@earth.li wrote: If a GHC release needs an unreleased change in one of the libraries, and the maintainer (for whatever reason) is not responding to e-mails, should the GHC release be held up indefinitely? Again, note that GHC is no

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-27 Thread Gershom Bazerman
On 6/27/12 6:06 PM, Johan Tibell wrote: This is not a theoretical issue. We have had all of the following problems happen in the past due to the current process: * patches never making it upstream * releases of libraries without knowledge of the maintainer (who finds out by finding a new

Re: Fwd: ghc-7.6 branch

2012-06-26 Thread Johan Tibell
(Moving lots of people to BCC. If you want to follow this discussion it will continue on the glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org list.) On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Ian Lynagh i...@well-typed.com wrote: Please attribute any blame to me, not Paolo; he's only doing what I asked him to  :-) No