[gmx-users] simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
Hi all, I am trying to simulate a small organic molecule (42 atoms with 18 hydrogens among them) in water (SPCE). The force field was generated with X2TOP utility using GROMOS96 force field. All bonds, pairs, angles, dihedrals, etc are OK and the system runs OK but sometimes it craches producing

[gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread Giuseppe Pellicane
Hello, I'm trying to do constrained simulations of a system consisting of two solvated proteins separated at a given distance. Inside the box there are also around 14.000 water molecules. At the bottom there is the .pdo file (I'm using gromacs 3.3.3). However, it seems as it does not work. At

[gmx-users] R: gas adsorption on CNT

2010-01-24 Thread Giulio Scocchi
Hi. Though not a GROMACS user, I always read the very interesting topics of the mailing list. In this case I could maybe even help :) There is some info about building nanotubes in the GROMACS wiki/mailinglist and some nice papers about CNTs made with GROMACS by a someone called Johnson (if I

[gmx-users] global or local minimum

2010-01-24 Thread shahab shariati
*Hi ** **after energy minimization step, how can be understand that obtained **structure is in global or local minimum? ** ** * -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before

Re: [gmx-users] global or local minimum

2010-01-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
shahab shariati wrote: /Hi // //after energy minimization step, how can be understand that obtained //structure is in global or local minimum? // // / This identical question was posted just a few days ago and received an answer then:

[gmx-users] pdb file for CNT

2010-01-24 Thread neo lotus
Hi How pdb file for CNT is made? -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send

Re: [gmx-users] global or local minimum

2010-01-24 Thread KS Rotondi
This question came up a few weeks ago. The simple answer is, you can be pretty sure you're at the bottom of some potential energy surface but you can't know if you're at a local or global minimum. However, if you are using an experimentally determined protein structure, and the structure

[gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Please provide actual gromacs output and tell us where it is from. I know it's sad, but not all of us can recall what the gromacs 3.3.3 .pdo file format looked like. So please include a sufficiently large portion of the file to help us recall. If, on the other hand, these values that you

[gmx-users] strange empty space inside the system box

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Sounds like a bubble. Do some NpT equilibration by adding pressure coupling. That's going to be difficult with your freeze groups though. Basically, you need to find a way to get the correct solution density between the graphite layers. -- original message -- Hi all, Is there anyone who

[gmx-users] simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
1. Is your system is properly minimized 2. If you take the output from a 500 ps run with 0.25 fs timestep and start a 1 fs timestep run, is that new run stable? 3. What are atoms 62 and 80? **4. Why is there a 1-4 between atoms 62 and 80 if you have only water and a 42 atom solute? 5. What

[gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Dear Giuseppe: I don't think your method of showing the change is very good since it introduces unnecessary variables (e.g. did you use the correct files for the second run). What I am looking for is raw -pd pull.pdo data from the first run. I found no such file in the body of the email

Re: [gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread Giuseppe Pellicane
Chris: you're right man, let me be more concise. Here there is the execution line I used: mpiexec -n $NSLOTS mdrun_mpi -np 1 -v -s start_res.tpr -o output_res -c output_conf -pi pull.ppa -pn mdgrp1.ndx -po pullout -pdo pullout1 * As for the pull.ppa file, here you go: ; GENERAL verbose

[gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
Hi Chris, 1. Is your system is properly minimized Of course, it is, based on the energy values. 2. If you take the output from a 500 ps run with 0.25 fs timestep and start a 1 fs timestep run, is that new run stable? Unfortunately the new run also crashes. The crash may be at the very end

[gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Dear Giuseppe: *** What I am looking for is raw -pd pull.pdo data from the first run. *** It looks like you did not define a name for -pd: mpiexec -n $NSLOTS mdrun_mpi -np 1 -v -s start_res.tpr -o output_res -c output_conf -pi pull.ppa -pn mdgrp1.ndx -po pullout -pdo pullout1 * so based on

Re: [gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread Giuseppe Pellicane
Got it! Ok, first lines: # CONSTRAINT3.0 # Component selection: 1 1 1 # nSkip 1 # Ref. Group 'protein_b' # Nr. of pull groups 1 # Group 1 'protein_a' Pos. 3.099513 2.982803 3.377482 # 0.00-787.501479 0.002000-271.159600 0.004000

[gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
1. Is your system is properly minimized Of course, it is, based on the energy values. Don't be so sure! Although since your 0.25 fs timestep -- 1 fs timestep transition crashes you are likely correct here. **4. Why is there a 1-4 between atoms 62 and 80 if you have only water and a 42

[gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Dear Giuseppe: OK, those are the forces. They seem pretty huge and massively fluctuating, although I use umbrella sampling myself so this might be quite normal for constraint sampling (something for you to look into). The only thing that comes to mind is that your running up against a

[gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
There's your problem (although in a different manner than I thought). If you have, for example, 3 solutes, then you should have [ molecules ] CIP 3 -NOT- [ molecules ] CIP 1 Of course, the number of moleules in .top and .gro files coincides. Otherwise, one would have had immediate

Re: [gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Vitaly V. Chaban wrote: There's your problem (although in a different manner than I thought). If you have, for example, 3 solutes, then you should have [ molecules ] CIP 3 -NOT- [ molecules ] CIP 1 Of course, the number of moleules in .top and .gro files coincides. Otherwise, one would

[gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
Justin, All the directives are correct. Chris just mistyped saying [ molecules ] CIP 3 instead of [ moleculetype ] CIP 3 that I orginally send him. He can't know how many CIPs I have in my system because I didn't send him this section. :) Vitaly On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:39

[gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Vitaly V. Chaban wrote: Justin, All the directives are correct. Chris just mistyped saying [ molecules ] CIP 3 instead of [ moleculetype ] CIP 3 that I orginally send him. He can't know how many CIPs I have in my system because I didn't send him this section. :) You said

[gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Dear Vitaly: Justin raises the point well, so that should be addressed first. If, however, you still have problems then there's the only thing that I can think of: 1. put a single solute in a large vacuum box and use the sd integrator. Can you reproduce the problem? 2. Remove the

Re: [gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread Giuseppe Pellicane
Dear Chris: I don't think it is something related to pbc because my solutes are well inside the simulation box (as I told you before I visualize them via a movie while the simulation proceeds). Nor it is something related to the barostat because I saw that warning and in order to try to see it

[gmx-users] simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
All the directives are correct. Chris just mistyped saying [ molecules ] CIP 3 instead of [ moleculetype ] CIP 3 that I orginally send him. Not true. I meant exactly what I typed. I am referring to the section that occurs at the end of your .top file: It sometimes looks like

[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 123

2010-01-24 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
You said before: 5. What does your .top look like? (does it list the organic molecule   only once in the [ molecules ] section?) Only once. OK. We misunderstood one another. I meant CIP is mentioned only once = one string with CIP molecules number. So this entry was not really

[gmx-users] CONSTRAINED SIMULATIONS

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Dear Giuseppe: This is a pretty good example of how it can be useful to completely describe what you are doing at first posting. What you mention could easily be a problem for a couple of reasons: 1. The manual indicates that you may need more than one shake iteration in this case (or at

[gmx-users] Re: simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
Dear Chris - 1. put a single solute in a large vacuum box and use the sd integrator. Can you reproduce the problem? No problem in vacuo found. 2. Remove the dihedral parameters entirely. Can you reproduce the problem? The problem appeared between carbon and hydrogen 1-4 atoms... Would you

[gmx-users] simulation crash with GROMOS96 force field

2010-01-24 Thread Chris Neale
Dear Vitaly: 1. No problem at all in vacuo? That with a 1 fs timestep and the sd integrator? Strange then that your molecule is ok and the water is ok, but they are unstable together. Perhaps your'e not getting any LJ interactions (or not correct ones) between your solute and water? That's

[gmx-users] simulation box and CNT

2010-01-24 Thread neo lotus
Hi,I want to simulate a finite CNT and CNT is flexible .but during time simulation of nanotube is outside the simulation box and again into the box is return ,and finally , in the end simulation time,half of CNT remains outside the box.please guid me to solve this problem . thanks -- gmx-users

Re: [gmx-users] strange empty space inside the system box

2010-01-24 Thread Baofu Qiao
Hi, Thanks a lot for the suggestion! NPT does is difficult with the frozen graphite layers. On the other hand, I have also done another simulation using the implicit graphite wall with the same polymer solution (composition and system volume). These implicit wall systems seems good, at least

Re: [gmx-users] simulation box and CNT

2010-01-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
neo lotus wrote: Hi,I want to simulate a finite CNT and CNT is flexible .but during time simulation of nanotube is outside the simulation box and again into the box is return ,and finally , in the end simulation time,half of CNT remains outside the box.please guid me to solve this problem

[gmx-users] methane in water

2010-01-24 Thread nishap . patel
Hello, I am running rdf simulations, and I tried running simple methane using OPLS-AA force-field for 100ns. I was hoping to get a smoother curve for such a small molecule in 100ns. Could someone please look over my mdp parameters and suggest if I am missing something. Thanks. Nisha

[gmx-users] methane in water

2010-01-24 Thread chris . neale
Dear Nisha: I looked only at the rdf, and it seems entirely reasonable. 100 ns may be a long simulation, but you only have 1 methane and that's what leads to you having much less data than if you were for instance looking at water-water rdfs. If you want it to look smoother, then use

[gmx-users] RE: strange empty space inside the system box

2010-01-24 Thread Hu Zhongqiao
I suggest you first can run a system with only polymer solution in NPT ensemble. After a suitable density is reached, then you can add two graphite sheets into the equilibrated system, please set the distance between graphite and solution carefully (or trial error). Best wishes, Zhongqiao Hi,

[gmx-users] Ligand coming out while trying Drug-enzyme tutorial

2010-01-24 Thread vivek sharma
Hi All, I was trying *GROMACS Tutorial for Drug – Enzyme Complex* by *John E. Kerrigan* over one docked complex in following way. I generated topology and gromacs co-ordinates for ligand and cofactor successfully using PRODRG beta. Protein file is processed through pdb2gmax_d and resulted .gro

Re: [gmx-users] Ligand coming out while trying Drug-enzyme tutorial

2010-01-24 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Vivek, Now when I am processing the modified .gro file to generate box, the ligand and cofactor are going away from the protein molecule and I am not able to analyze the complex. Gradually going away, or suddenly jumping? In the latter case, read up on periodic boundary conditions.

Re: [gmx-users] GMXRC Problem

2010-01-24 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Pawan, Check which shell you're actually running (probably bash), and source the shell specific GMXRC file (GMXRC.bash). Cheers, Tsjerk On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:19 AM, pawan raghav pwnr...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Justin, I have some problem regarding GMXRC execution, I got an error while

Re: [gmx-users] GMXRC Problem

2010-01-24 Thread Mark Abraham
- Original Message - From: pawan raghav pwnr...@gmail.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010 18:21 Subject: [gmx-users] GMXRC Problem To: gmx-users@gromacs.org Dear Justin, I have some problem regarding GMXRC execution, I got an error while using gromacs-4.0.7 on windows vista using