[gmx-users] problem with linear molecules and suggested fix

2007-10-16 Thread David Mobley
bugzilla. Thank you, David Mobley UCSF http://www.dillgroup.ucsf.edu/~dmobley ___ gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://www.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting! P

Re: [gmx-users] weird problem on small molecules with triple bonds

2007-10-16 Thread David Mobley
David and all, > Sorry, my brain was on vacation (about the N). Anyway, having C2 as VS > would mean the molecule remains perfectly linear as it should be, and > you do not have to define angles of 180 degrees which gives you an > ill-defined force. Isn't there a robust implementation that wouldn

Re: [gmx-users] weird problem on small molecules with triple bonds

2007-10-16 Thread David Mobley
David, On 10/16/07, David van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Mobley wrote: > > All, > > > > I may be in a hole of my own digging, here, but I've been trying to > > simulate a large set of small molecules in explicit solvent. I'm using >

Re: [gmx-users] forcefield validation

2007-10-16 Thread David Mobley
Alan Dodd's suggestion is nice, but there isn't always a lot of experimental data available for a particular molecule we can compare with -- or perhaps we want to begin with "good" parameters and then see if our method can reproduce experiment. Anyway, for whatever reason it isn't always possible t

[gmx-users] weird problem on small molecules with triple bonds

2007-10-16 Thread David Mobley
All, I may be in a hole of my own digging, here, but I've been trying to simulate a large set of small molecules in explicit solvent. I'm using the Amber GAFF parameters, converted over to GROMACS using our amb2gmx.pl script. The problem I'm running into is that for anything with a triple bond (i

[gmx-users] Re: FEP problem

2007-10-15 Thread David Mobley
Dear Qin, I believe the GROMACS manual recommends doing constant volume equilibration prior to doing constant pressure equilibration. This is what I always do. My understanding is that the Berendsen barostat tends to be rather "picky" and crash (as you're seeing) when the system is changing rapidl

Re: [gmx-users] Re: ANTECHAMBER & GAFF

2007-10-02 Thread David Mobley
Dechang, >With the help of Yang Ye and Mark, I downloaded amb2gmx.pl to transform > the topology from AMBER format to > GROMACS. But the script requires an AMBER installation to work and I didn't > have a AMBER package. How can I go on? Mark pointed out one option -- rethink your choice of

Re: [gmx-users] Why Total Energy is positive??

2007-09-05 Thread David Mobley
> If it is fine, then how can I compare the result with ab inito's? Thanks. Two things: (1) Total and potential energies are only meaningful up to an additive constant. So there is no reason in principle your potential energy (or total energy) should be negative rather than positive. Just think ab

Re: [gmx-users] how to build up fixed connections? how to simulate no electrostatics?

2007-08-14 Thread David Mobley
Maybe this is naive, but: (a) Are you using pressure regulation? (If so, with which barostat?) (b) How do you know what you expect the pressure to be? (c) By "fixed connections", do you mean fixed bond lengths? Are you doing this using constraints? David On 8/13/07, Nicolas Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [gmx-users] Re: question about free energy. Gromacs user

2007-08-11 Thread David Mobley
Hi, > I just have a couple of things i want to clarify about the constrain > distances i used. The distance I used to pull the ligand and receptor > apart was a non-bonded distance between the amide nitrogen of the ligand > and the oxygen carbonyl of the receptor (on both ends). looking at the >

[gmx-users] Re: question about free energy. Gromacs user

2007-08-09 Thread David Mobley
Hi, > I have been reading your work about free energy calculations and it is > impressive. I want to estimate binding free energy for a ligand/receptor > complex and I would appreciate your valuable input on how to approach the > system I am using. It is the first time I attempt free energy > cal

Re: [gmx-users] Free energy calculation

2007-08-06 Thread David Mobley
around 2003 by Rodinger and Pomes, and by David Kofke. Michael Shirts and John Chodera and I have another review in press (Annual Reports in Computational Chemistry) and you can find quite a few references in my latest paper: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jmb.2007.06.002. There is also a recent book e

Re: [gmx-users] FEP method in protein-ligand systems

2007-07-26 Thread David Mobley
Hi, > I am trying to run some simulations in attempts to calculate binding free > energy between ligands and a protein using the FEP method, but until now I > did not have any success. I have been looking for bibliography over this > subject, but, as you may know, there aren't many works about FEP

Re: [gmx-users] charge_calculation

2007-07-26 Thread David Mobley
Hi, I can't help with most of your e-mail, but I can comment on part of it. After calculation of charges i am getting a small residual charge of 3e-06 for my ligand. My ligand should be neutral. Is this small residual going to impact my simulations? You usually want to just round stuff so the

Re: [gmx-users] FEP and soft-core potentials

2007-07-24 Thread David Mobley
ECTED] on behalf of David Mobley Sent: Tue 7/24/2007 5:00 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] FEP and soft-core potentials Right. In fact, usually you would lose efficiency by using soft core potentials for an electrostatic transformation over doing it without soft core

Re: [gmx-users] FEP and soft-core potentials

2007-07-24 Thread David Mobley
Right. In fact, usually you would lose efficiency by using soft core potentials for an electrostatic transformation over doing it without soft core. The purpose of soft core is just to fix the problem with disappearing/inserting atoms which have 1/r^12 repulsion. David On 7/24/07, Georgios Pata

Re: [gmx-users] dummy atom definition in FEP

2007-07-23 Thread David Mobley
You don't need virtual sites. That's for something else. David On 7/23/07, Wang Qin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, I am just thinking about if in FEP calculation, I have given the position information for dummy atoms in the directory of [atoms], do I need to give the directo

Re: [gmx-users] Re: WCA and free energy calculations

2007-06-25 Thread David Mobley
Berk, Nearly anything can be done now in Gromacs :) (although sometimes not easily). Maybe I missed something, but according to me it should work. Tabulated potentials work just like any other potential. So they are soft-cored when the LJ-parameters or charge of one of the two atoms in the pai

Re: [gmx-users] Re: WCA and free energy calculations

2007-06-25 Thread David Mobley
Berk, Tabulated bonded potentials work fine with free-energy! Or have you tried and they did not work? Just to clarify -- it's not just an issue of free energy. We want to do free energy calculations using the WCA separation and soft core potentials. Since tabulated nonbonded interactions wo

[gmx-users] Re: WCA and free energy calculations

2007-06-24 Thread David Mobley
Hi, I'm CCing the users list on this since it might be of general interest. I can't begin to tell you already how much help you've given me with your gromacs user-list posts and free energy tutorial. Glad I can help! I was searching the Gromacs user list and came across a thread by you tit

Re: [Fwd: Re: [gmx-users] QMMM free energy]

2007-06-01 Thread David Mobley
Gerrit and David, David wrote: But wouldn't BAR work just fine? And On 5/31/07, Gerrit Groenhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Fiske, From what I understand, you want to compute the free energy for changing one or more atoms in the QM subsystem. I never considered doing this because I do no

Re: [gmx-users] QMMM free energy

2007-05-30 Thread David Mobley
I think Erik is right, here. In a QM sense, what does it mean to have an atom that is halfway in between, say, hydrogen and carbon? You might want to look at what Wei Yang at Florida State has been doing. If I remember correctly he has been making some efforts towards QM/MM free energy calculatio

Re: [gmx-users] QMMM free energy

2007-05-29 Thread David Mobley
tests with the free energy tutorial by David Mobley. I have matched his results using a pure MM free energy run, and am now looking to move to the QM/MM step. I added the methane molecule as my quantum system and tried running the first lambda. At the steep minimization step however I get a bus e

Re: [gmx-users] free energy tutorial results

2007-05-24 Thread David Mobley
AIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > I am trying to follow the free energy tutorial by David. Mobley, however my > results are quite a bit off (after integration I get around -9.07) I have > only used lambda's spaced at 0,0.1,0.2,... but surely I should

[gmx-users] hacked...

2007-05-23 Thread David Mobley
It seems the GROMACS web site has been hacked and perhaps loaded with unpleasant things. May be advisable to stay away until the GROMACS gurus let us know the coast is clear. David ___ gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://www.gromacs.o

Re: [gmx-users] gromacs-antechamber-gaff

2007-05-21 Thread David Mobley
code provides serious advantages (parallelization? I see a lot of warnings about this aspect, which with QM codes belongs to the far past) over Amber code. This is not endorsing any choice. I am still at the window (without "s"). Cheers francesco pietra --- David Mobley <[EMAIL

Re: [gmx-users] gromacs-antechamber-gaff

2007-05-21 Thread David Mobley
David, On 5/18/07, David van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Francesco Pietra wrote: > Planning to use gromacs aided by antechamber/gaff for > my recurrent need of new bonded parameters, and having > noticed that antechamber's tutorial refers to Sybyl > and Gaussian, my question: > > Is it

Re: [gmx-users] compatibility of MOPAC charges with GROMACS ?

2007-05-16 Thread David Mobley
So what you really need to do, once you have worked out which forcfield you are going to use, go back to the documentation / papers for that particular forcefield, see how they generated the parameters, then use that same procedure for the new parameters / molecules you want to generated. Strang

Re: [gmx-users] error estimates of free energy calculations

2007-05-15 Thread David Mobley
Jeroen, However, in my opinion (assuming the total error should be calculated from standard error propagation), the way g_analyze calculates the total error is incorrect. It results in an overestimation of this total error by at least a factor of sqrt((number of lambda points) - 1). This factor

Re: [gmx-users] amb2gmx code

2007-05-15 Thread David Mobley
http://www.alchemistry.org/FreeEnergyTools On 5/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, I checked the mailing list about conversion of Amber 8 or 9 topologies to gromacs topology using in house amb2gmx code. I would be really greatful if you can send me the code. Thanks,

Re: [gmx-users] Ligand Parameters

2007-05-14 Thread David Mobley
Justin, I am interested in simulating some small molecules that involve oxygen in aromatic rings (which thus bears a +1 charge). I tried to submit one of these molecules to PRODRG, but got an error indicating that there were too many bonds to O. I thought this issue might arise, due to the unu

[gmx-users] turning off output of dgdl.xvg and VCM messages?

2007-05-14 Thread David Mobley
All, I'm trying to set up some storage-limited calculations. Two related questions: (1) Is there a way to prevent dgdl.xvg from being written in free energy calculations? (2) Is there a way to prevent messages relating to COM removal from being written to the log file? For example, I get stuff l

[gmx-users] suggest small revision to genbox

2007-05-11 Thread David Mobley
All, I'm trying to write some wrappers to set up a project using standard gromacs tools. Anyway, it looks to me like genbox is not handling its path names correctly. In particular, here's what I did: - Make temporary directory in which to run genbox - Move to temporary directory, run genbox (rea

Re: [gmx-users] error estimates of free energy calculations

2007-05-11 Thread David Mobley
implemented the ability to write out the potential energies for BAR into GROMACS, but I haven't heard anything on this in a month or two. Best wishes, David Mobley UCSF ___ gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://www.gromacs.org/mailman/li

Re: [gmx-users] charge

2007-05-09 Thread David Mobley
Hi, I wish to simulate a ligand-protein system..I have used the prodrg server to create the .itp file for my ligand. I have done gaussian charge calculation for my ligand using the chelpg method. how should i incorporate the gaussian charges into my .itp file. should i copy the charges for hea

Re: [gmx-users] Very large fluctuations in dg/dl

2007-05-08 Thread David Mobley
Patrick, My first observation was that 1 ns seemed to be a minimum for certain lambda values (e.g. lambda=0.70). I sometimes read in literature that some authors used a few hundreds of ps, which seemed (to me) not sufficient for proper convergence. My experience is that the range of lambda=0.7

Re: [gmx-users] GROMACS Wiki

2007-05-02 Thread David Mobley
Erik and all, I think this is a great idea. I've been working on (and plans to work more on) a bit of a free energy wiki/tutorial page beyond what's already available; depending on how this develops I can transfer/combine with what's already on the wiki. As you probably know there are lots of th

Re: [gmx-users] Request for dihedral PMF test system or complete alanine dipeptide topology file

2007-04-26 Thread David Mobley
Chris, >Right. I remember looking into this at one point, and I don't think >the manual is correct; it looks to me like dihres.c handles >periodicity properly. In particular, there is the followign comment in >dihres.c: It's good to see that this is actually a comment in the source code, I didn

Re: [gmx-users] request for dihedral PMF test system or complete alanine dipeptide topology file

2007-04-26 Thread David Mobley
Chris, I have included my .top file. The relevant section is in [ dihedral_restraints ] This file is a template that I use like this: sed 's/PHI/${phi_value}/' template.top | sed 's/PSI/${psi_value}/' > phi${phi_value}_psi${psi_value}.top Just out of curiousity, which GROMACS version are you

Re: [gmx-users] request for dihedral PMF test system or complete alanine dipeptide topology file

2007-04-25 Thread David Mobley
Chris, I'll have to assume you know what you're doing with using impropers to calculate PMFs. I've done this using the dihedral restraints code. Have you double-checked that? That's the first place I would look. Otherwise, I don't have a great test system for you. David On 4/25/07, Chris Neal

Re: [gmx-users] invalid order for directive position restraints

2007-04-24 Thread David Mobley
This usually means the sections in your topology file are not iin the correct order. In particular it is not happy with the order of something in FE.itp, probably the position restraints section. On 4/24/07, S O N A L I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi everybody, i am working on melenin binding co

Re: [gmx-users] soft-core potential in combination with PME

2007-04-19 Thread David Mobley
e meantime I can fix errors in the existing one or clarify. David Greetings, Jeroen > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:18:21 -0700 > From: "David Mobley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] soft-core potential in combination with PME > (sorry, agai

Re: [gmx-users] soft-core potential in combination with PME (sorry, again)

2007-04-13 Thread David Mobley
Berk and all, I don't understand what David Mobley meant exactly. There is no Coulomb singularity with soft-core. Maybe one could have an unfortunate situation where the LJ is already very soft, but the Coulomb not very soft, which could lead to instabilities. But I have never encountered

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Ligand_charges

2007-04-13 Thread David Mobley
Another possibility is to use a force field which has already been developed for small molecules that makes it easier to parameterize. One example is the Generalized Amber Force Field for small molecules, which can be used with the AMBER protein force fields (which, I might add, have been ported t

Re: [gmx-users] modify C6 directly in FF using sigma and epsilon

2007-04-06 Thread David Mobley
st for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] modify C6 directly in FF using sigma and epsilon David Mobley wrote: > David, > > I'm using 3.3/3.3.1. > > Is there an easy tweak to the source code that would allow something > like this? i.e. could I somehow easily tweak

Re: [gmx-users] modify C6 directly in FF using sigma and epsilon

2007-04-05 Thread David Mobley
David, It seems that your best bet is to write that little Perl script to convert the whole force field to C6/C12. It's a little worse than that, since I still need to use the same combination rules. I'll have to create a new "force field" where I define all possible pairs of nonbonded interac

Re: [gmx-users] modify C6 directly in FF using sigma and epsilon

2007-04-05 Thread David Mobley
David, I'm using 3.3/3.3.1. Is there an easy tweak to the source code that would allow something like this? i.e. could I somehow easily tweak the bit where it reads the nonbond_params section so I can use an alternate combination rule there by specifying, say, a different nonbonded parameter typ

[gmx-users] modify C6 directly in FF using sigma and epsilon

2007-04-05 Thread David Mobley
Gromacs users, I'm using a force field (the port of AMBER to GROMACS) which uses combination rules (combination rule 2), etc. in terms of sigma and epsilon. However, I need to be able to modify C6 directly (in particular, I want to be able to set it to zero). Can anyone give me any pointers on a

[gmx-users] pairs types for decoupling

2007-04-03 Thread David Mobley
All, I'm using the CVS version of 3.3.1 from last week, and am trying to get the new pairs types Berk Hess has implemented to work for doing decoupling. There's an old e-mail here on the subject, which is all I've got to go by: http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-developers/2006-March/001530.htm

Re: [gmx-users] Re: bug in ffoplsaanb.itp?

2007-04-01 Thread David Mobley
Alan, Thanks. That's very helpful. I'm actually not using OPLS at all myself -- I just stumbled across this really odd looking set of F- parameters when troubleshooting for someone else. Anyway, your comments are very helpful. I appreciate it. David On 3/31/07, Alan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [gmx-users] bug in ffoplsaanb.itp?

2007-03-30 Thread David Mobley
Erik and all, No, I don't think so, or at least it's not our typo :-) It is quite common that ions end up with strange radii when you parametrize for free energy of solvation, and in addition those parameters are somewhat old (1984). Here's the extract from Bill Jorgensens file that we translat

[gmx-users] bug in ffoplsaanb.itp?

2007-03-30 Thread David Mobley
All, I'm looking at the epsilon value in ffoplsaanb.itp (i.e. from CVS of 3.3.1) for opls_400, F-. It's lilsted as 3.01248e00. This is roughly a factor of 10 larger than many of the other anions (i.e. Cl) and also roughly a factor of 10 larger than the AMBER96 value (in the same units) for F-: 2.

[gmx-users] angle-dependent radial distribution function -- documentation problem, or how?

2007-03-28 Thread David Mobley
told that the ability is no longer in GROMACS. My question: Is the 3.3 manual in error when it says that g_rdf can do this? If not, how do I use g_rdf in this manner? Thanks, David Mobley ___ gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://www.g

[gmx-users] tabulated nonbonded interactions and free energy calculations

2007-03-27 Thread David Mobley
All, I'm trying to figure out how to use tabulated nonbonded interactions in GROMACS in conjunction with free energy calculations. While the documentation addresses both separately, I am somewhat confused about what would happen if I try to use both simultaneously. In particular, I'm looking at t

Re: [gmx-users] Topology file for D2O

2007-03-27 Thread David Mobley
Hi, I am not an expert about heavy water -- but it does seem strange to me to think that you could get "heavy water" just by changing the mass of the hydrogens in a conventional water model. The *only* thing this will affect is the kinetic energy and mass of water. Presumably changing hydrogen to

Re: [gmx-users] Counter ion and PME

2007-03-23 Thread David Mobley
pends on what you mean by correct. Formally, the sum works out OK. And since the charge is uniform, it won't affect the dynamics/thermodynamics. Of course, in real life there is no such thing as a uniform background charge, and neutralization comes from counterions. So in that sense it's incorre

Re: [gmx-users] turn off pdb output

2007-03-23 Thread David Mobley
d of boolean, and initialize it to -1. Then cell getenv() (which can be slow) outside the init part, but only if bDumpOnError==-1, and set it to 0 or 1. Finally edit the conditionals for bDumpOnError to check if it is 1 instead. Cheers, Erik On Mar 22, 2007, at 5:30 PM, David Mobley wrot

Re: [gmx-users] turn off pdb output

2007-03-23 Thread David Mobley
. David Cheers, Erik On Mar 22, 2007, at 12:59 AM, David Mobley wrote: > Berk, > > What value does this need to be set to for it to work? > > Thanks, > David > > > On 3/20/07, Berk Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> There seems to be an environ

Re: [gmx-users] turn off pdb output

2007-03-21 Thread David Mobley
Berk, What value does this need to be set to for it to work? Thanks, David On 3/20/07, Berk Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There seems to be an environment variable NO_SHAKE_ERROR Berk. >From: "David Mobley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Discussion

Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect dihedral restraints

2007-03-20 Thread David Mobley
What version of GROMACS are you using? Also, your force constants seem sort of small. Have you tried larger values? David On 3/20/07, Jonathan Khao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello My goal is to make dihedral restraints on the backbone of a bent alpha helix to obtain i

[gmx-users] turn off pdb output

2007-03-19 Thread David Mobley
All, Under some circumstances, mdrun writes out pdb files with previous and current coordinates. Is there some way I can turn this off? For reasons I'd rather not explain, I'm reprocessing a single precision trajectory using the double precision version of mdrun, and this results in pdb files be

Re: [gmx-users] freezing/position restraints and minimization

2007-03-19 Thread David Mobley
David, > I ask this, because I read on severel places (e.g. the online mdp > options manual and in one of the tutorials) that you could use the - > DFLEXIBLE definition to "allow steepest descent to minimize further". > So I've used it for most of my minimizations up til now, assuming > that was

Re: [gmx-users] freezing/position restraints and minimization

2007-03-16 Thread David Mobley
th L-BFGS or other minimizers aside from steepest descents, you're probably deforming your water molecules, as well. David Thanks, David On 3/16/07, David Mobley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob, > > > Maybe this is a stupid suggestions butdid you check if your two &g

Re: [gmx-users] freezing/position restraints and minimization

2007-03-16 Thread David Mobley
S don't respect constraints. I think I'll try again with only a steepest descents minimization (I think steep works OK with constraints, if I remember correctly) and see if this helps. Thanks, David On 3/16/07, David Mobley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob, > Maybe this is a stupid s

Re: [gmx-users] freezing/position restraints and minimization

2007-03-16 Thread David Mobley
rt -- I just can't figure out why freeze groups isn't working. (Incidentally, if I look at a movie of the trajectories run with freeze groups, it does look like they stay frozen -- just not at the positions I've specified). Thanks, David On 3/16/07, David Mobley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

[gmx-users] freezing/position restraints and minimization

2007-03-16 Thread David Mobley
All, I'm trying to be ultimately able to fix the position of several arbitrary atoms (think of them just as spheres) in a simulation. One would think this should be straightforward, but I'm having big problems. In particular, right now I'm just using two atoms, which I initially have at a separa

Re: [gmx-users] performance question

2007-03-15 Thread David Mobley
If you're not planning on running parallel jobs I would go for the higher clock speed. If you're running parallel, well, I am not sure. On 3/13/07, Andrei Neamtu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, We are in the process of building a cluster on which GROMACS will be the main computational engine

Re: [gmx-users] Chimera GROMACS support

2007-03-08 Thread David Mobley
All, Just in case there are those on here who don't know, Chimera is a nice viewing program for molecular structures, trajectories, etc. It also has a lot of bells and whistles relating to preparing structures for simulation (i.e. building in missing residues/loops, etc). David On 2/27/07, Eri

Re: [gmx-users] About the evaluation for the free energy of lipid/protein interacion

2007-03-08 Thread David Mobley
You might want to start with an introductory simulation book like the one by Andrew Leach. David On 3/1/07, Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shulin Zhuang wrote: > Great thanks. Would you like to give me several papers on this field. No, I don't have any, and that's your job :-) Mark

Re: [gmx-users] problem with free energy calculations

2007-02-16 Thread David Mobley
Michael, 2) i get the same results when using md+NH thermostate with two thermostates, or langevin dynamics (sd), the error bars are somewhat larger with sd though. Well, that's fine -- but it doesn't mean that everything is OK. NH has known problems. There is also a bugzilla relating to this

Re: [gmx-users] Building Topology of a Drug (using the ff of your choice)

2007-02-16 Thread David Mobley
Arneh, How does one build a topology using a different force field (say for instance, oplsaa)? Is there a simple way to do it, I think OpenEye (or someone else, I forget whom) has some sort of automatic parameterization tool for OPLS that automatically generates parameters. Of course, this is

Re: [gmx-users] problem with free energy calculations

2007-02-07 Thread David Mobley
Michael, I calculated the free energy of solvation of water (basically its chemical potential). The literature value for TIP3P water, which I used, is about -6.3 kcal/mol - I get something like +2.5 (!) ... I suggest doing the charging component separately. I *think* this is more efficient tha

Re: [gmx-users] dispersion correction and heterogeneous systems

2007-01-30 Thread David Mobley
Chris, Does anybody have any experience with DispCorr=EnerPres and a heterogeneous system (e.g. aggregation of detergents to form micelles)? What about membranes? Even if it is not a perfect method, is an imperfect assumption of homogeneous LJ density beyond the cutoff better than entirely ignor

Re: [gmx-users] units of force constants in posre.itp file

2007-01-30 Thread David Mobley
Michael, Yes, the units are kJ/mol/nm^2. I think the default values in posre.itp are designed for something like equilibrating your water with the protein held rigid or something, so they are pretty big. (This is not insanely large, though -- keep in mind it's only 10 kJ/mol*A^2). David On 1/3

[gmx-users] energy components zero in double precision?

2007-01-30 Thread David Mobley
All, I'm having a perplexing problem(?) with a double-precision version of GROMACS 3.3 I just compiled. I'm using it to reprocess a single frame of a trr file using mdrun -rerun and a particular mdp file, topology, and gro, and looking at the resulting energies. For some reason, my coulomb-14 and

Re: [gmx-users] lambda dependence of nonbonded parameters

2007-01-30 Thread David Mobley
Paolo, can anybody tell me what happens to lennard jones parameters and coulomb charges varying the lambda parameter? I know from the manual how the interaction is rescaled but what i'm concerned in is now how C6 C12 and charge vary with lambda. What happens then to the interaction between two

Re: [gmx-users] free energy calculation

2007-01-30 Thread David Mobley
Hi, You are probably starting your runs from a non equilibrated structure. I don't think this is necessarily true: For example, you could be seeing the crash you describe on the first step of equilibration... However, you might want to make usre you have thoroughly *minimized* at each lambda v

Re: [gmx-users] Re: gromacs and pH description!

2007-01-30 Thread David Mobley
I agree that this would be a good idea. We would need to think carefully about how to validate it though. On 1/30/07, Jay Mashl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, David van der Spoel wrote: > > Mark Abraham wrote: >> Florian Haberl wrote: >> >> > > 1) how can i explaine "pH" int

Re: [gmx-users] How to implement dihedral restraints

2007-01-24 Thread David Mobley
Hi, The test I ran was just rotating a side chain of an amino acid residue over one of its dihedral angle 360 degrees with dihre_fc = 8000. OK. I was doing a val sidechain. I originally thought fc = 8000kJ/mol unit^2 would give fluctuation of about the half the unit size since I use fc = 800

Re: [gmx-users] How to implement dihedral restraints

2007-01-23 Thread David Mobley
Chris, On 1/23/07, Chris Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting manual-3.3 page 58 "Note that in the input in topology files, angles are given in degrees and force constants in kJ/mol/rad2." I assume here that force constants refers to dihre_fc. However, although the test PMF's that I have g

Re: [gmx-users] Free energy calculation, parallel or sequential lambda runs ?

2006-12-15 Thread David Mobley
Ignacio, OK, I do basically the same, but instead of starting the second equilibration from the same structure for each lambda, I start from the final structure of the previous lambda (still, I equilibrate before production for each lambda). I don't see why this strategy should be worse the one

Re: [gmx-users] Free energy calculation, parallel or sequential lambda runs ?

2006-12-15 Thread David Mobley
Stéphane, I'm willing to do some FEP using the slow groth approach available in gromacs (as of 3.3.1). While retrieving articles and the mailing list, i found out there where arguments against sequential runs (particularly for avoiding the hysteresis problem), and other against parallel runs.

[gmx-users] Re: free energy calculation & TI

2006-12-14 Thread David Mobley
Anirban and all, I am putting this on list since I don't want to make a full-time job out of answering free energy questions (although stay tuned for a more extensive tutorial) and hopefully I can avoid answering the same question more than once. I have seen your posts on gromacs mailing list r

Re: [gmx-users] (dH/dl) calculation

2006-11-09 Thread David Mobley
ith a finite difference scheme (f(l+dl)-f(l))/dl or some such), but there's no reason to do that, since the derivative approach is simpler. Isn't this clear from the manual? As much as I think the manual is unclear sometimes, this isn't one of those times... David Best regards,

Re: [gmx-users] Strange problem with simple FEP (bug?)

2006-11-07 Thread David Mobley
Maik, I'm trying to do a simple FEP within a simple protein, which seems to make things simple...but as you may expect...it is anything else than that. What I'm trying to do is morphing a Tyrosine into a Phenylalanine in OPLSAA. Therefore the CZ is changed from the type of TYR to the type of

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Re: (dH/dl) calculation

2006-11-07 Thread David Mobley
y the code. > > > > > > I am not sure if that's helpful at all, as I'm not entirely sure > what > > > problem you're having. After all, whenever you do TI calculations > in > > > GROMACS, the code gives you back dG/dl (or dH/dl, or dA/dl) for

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Molecular volume

2006-11-06 Thread David Mobley
ound in rtp database in residue TRP (Joern Lenz) > 5. Re: Fw: gmx-3.3.1_cpmd-3.11.1 with mpirun (Pradip K Biswas) > 6. Re: (dH/dl) calculation (David Mobley) >7. Molecular volume (Mohan Boggara) >8. Re: Molecular volume (David Mobley) > > > ---

Re: [gmx-users] Molecular volume

2006-11-06 Thread David Mobley
I think in 3.3, there was a new option added to g_sas that allows you to calculate the solvent accessible volume, which may be what you want. Try searching the list. David On 11/6/06, Mohan Boggara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear users, Is there a way to calculate molecular volume of small sol

Re: [gmx-users] (dH/dl) calculation

2006-11-06 Thread David Mobley
ered that above), or are you trying to figure out how to use it? If you're confused about how to use it, try to ask a question that relates to the specific issue you're confused about. Best wishes, David Mobley UCSF On 11/5/06, Mauricio Sica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear ex

Re: [gmx-users] Protein Simulations using gromacs

2006-11-02 Thread David Mobley
Komath, 2. What is the common practice to deal with breaks in the protein chains? Is it good to terminate each fragment with acetyl groups? If you are referring to missing residues, these are, of course, typically present in the protein itself, but just not resolved in some crystal structures.

Re: [gmx-users] MD prot-ligand literature

2006-11-02 Thread David Mobley
Narcis, You might try doing a literature search, or be more specific with your question (i.e., what would you like to know about? What do you hope to learn by doing such study? (Are you trying to calculate/estimate binding free energies, or just study binding modes? Do you already have co-crystal

Re: [gmx-users] angular pull code

2006-10-19 Thread David Mobley
Soren, I don't have much (any?) experience with the pull code. But I've done some computing of PMF's that is somewhat similar to this using just orientational (angle and dihedral) and distance restraints, appropriately defined. That might be an option. David On 10/19/06, Soren Enemark <[EMAIL

Re: [gmx-users] Solvation Free energy Calculation

2006-10-19 Thread David Mobley
Paolo, As for the LJ decoupling,I cannot obtain a smooth curve and dG/dlambda has large deviations even if I use sc_alpha = 0.5 and sc_power = 1 as suggested by Shirts. This doesn't typically give a smooth curve in the sense of featureless, like the electrostatics curve. However, the particula

Re: [gmx-users] dg/dl at lambda = 1

2006-10-18 Thread David Mobley
Hi, Dear gromacs users, I am trying to use FEP method for the calculation of relative binding free energy of peptide-protein complex. I am using gmx-3.3.1. As per previous discussions on the mailing list, i learnt that i need to do two different sets of simulations for my case. first set will

Re: [gmx-users] Re: water molecules in vacuum simulation

2006-09-28 Thread David Mobley
This may be naive, but have you defined POSRES_WATER, i.e. in your top or mdp file? If not, the position restraints will be unused. On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I am facing a problem in constraining the crystallographic water molecules during invacuo simulat

Re: [gmx-users] Free energy for charged molecules

2006-09-22 Thread David Mobley
Ignacio, Thanks for your reply. I had actually search the archives but didn't find any clear answer (maybe the search was not so good)... You mention this is a problem with PME, would plain Ewald or even Reaction-Field be less problematic in this case? And how large do you estimate the cutoff sh

Re: [gmx-users] Free energy for charged molecules

2006-09-21 Thread David Mobley
Ignacio, Is there some precaution or additional term I should take into account when calculating the free energy of solvation for a charged molecule? I plan to make the molecule "disappear" whith lambda moving from 0 to 1 and then perform a thermodynamical integration, this seems to work reaso

Re: [gmx-users] constraint distance between ligand and protein

2006-09-13 Thread David Mobley
Kanin, On 9/11/06, kanin wichapong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I would like to know how to make a distance constraint between the ligand and the protein. If I just merge two chain together by pdb2gmx, it can done if the two chain are both protein. However, if it is a ligand and protei

Re: Re: SV: Re: [gmx-users] constraint distance

2006-09-13 Thread David Mobley
Allow me to take this opportunity to reiterate that the ability to only apply distance/angle/dihedral restraints between atoms in the same "molecule" (in the topology sense) is really lame. It would be really nice if GROMACS could handle absolute atom numbering for restraints (i.e. using the numbe

Re: [gmx-users] wham question

2006-09-13 Thread David Mobley
Manohar, I don't have a tutorial, but have done a bit of this. I think GROMACS has some built in tools for WHAM, but I have never used these. I just apply harmonic restraints to pull a ligand out of the binding site and then use my own WHAM code to analyze the data. In terms of picking the numbe

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