Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-25 Thread Mark Abraham
Yes, I got exchanges. By construction! :-) Email me off-list if you would like a methods description (for what it is worth). Mark On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM, massimo sandal wrote: > This hints at an interesting protocol/attempt, at least for a sort of > newbie like me. Can you elaborate?

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-25 Thread massimo sandal
This hints at an interesting protocol/attempt, at least for a sort of newbie like me. Can you elaborate? Did they exchange? On 25 Apr 2013 13:06, "Mark Abraham" wrote: > Likewise, I agreed with what Massimo said. > > As an example, I recently did a fairly large set of REMD simulations of a > 320-

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-25 Thread Mark Abraham
Likewise, I agreed with what Massimo said. As an example, I recently did a fairly large set of REMD simulations of a 320-atom disordered peptide with rather more water and many fewer replicas than you propose. I did so because I expected low barriers and large maximum diameter (the latter from an

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-24 Thread massimo sandal
Don't be sorry. It's okay. It's just cultural differences. 2013/4/24 bharat gupta > I think it should be me who should be sorry. I should have asked the > question again in the forum without referring to some particular > individual. > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:30 PM, massimo sandal >wrote

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-24 Thread bharat gupta
I think it should be me who should be sorry. I should have asked the question again in the forum without referring to some particular individual. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:30 PM, massimo sandal wrote: > 2013/4/24 Justin Lemkul > > > > > > > I haven't said anything because I agree with what Mass

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-24 Thread massimo sandal
2013/4/24 Justin Lemkul > > > I haven't said anything because I agree with what Massimo has already told > you. If that is comforting in some way to know, then so be it, but I think > it is rather rude to suggest that you would rather someone else answer your > question, even after being given t

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-24 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 4/23/13 9:43 PM, bharat gupta wrote: Dear Justin/Mark, I have asked this question previously in the forum, I got some reply from other members. It will be more useful if you can provide you expert comments on the same. I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system (27

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Justin/Mark, I have asked this question previously in the forum, I got some reply from other members. It will be more useful if you can provide you expert comments on the same. I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system (27639). The temperature range I selected is fr

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread massimo sandal
In general, the smaller is your system, the less temperatures you will need (and you'll have better performance). Notice however that implicit solvent, while surely a possibility worth considering, is not usually considered to be very good -take care that if you write a paper from implicit solvent

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks a lot for your prompt responses. By using implicit solvent , I am getting on 9 temperature values. I think this should work , I will try it out. Also, i checked that when the no. of water molecules are reduced , the no. of temp. values are also reduced. If I reduce the no. of water molecules

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread massimo sandal
In general, look in the literature what other people have done on similar systems, and try to go from there. 2013/4/23 massimo sandal > It depends on what you want to do. Possible it is certainly possible, but > you can't be guaranteed to observe the conformational changes you desire to > obser

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread massimo sandal
It depends on what you want to do. Possible it is certainly possible, but you can't be guaranteed to observe the conformational changes you desire to observe. Again, it does not depend only on the REMD, but also on the length of it. How long will it be? 10 ns? 100? 1000? 10.000? Plus, it also depen

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
So, my final question is whether is possible to do REMD for my system, using the computational resource that I have. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:06 PM, massimo sandal wrote: > Who knows? It depends on the size of your peptide, on the energy landscape, > on how long is the run you plan to do. I wo

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread massimo sandal
Who knows? It depends on the size of your peptide, on the energy landscape, on how long is the run you plan to do. I would bet on "no", however. 2013/4/23 bharat gupta > But if I choose a smaller temperature range , would it be possible to > observe any folding event ?? > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 20

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
But if I choose a smaller temperature range , would it be possible to observe any folding event ?? On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, massimo sandal wrote: > Thanks, now it's clearer. > > > Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can exchange ... > > You can't, I would say. The syste

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread massimo sandal
Thanks, now it's clearer. > Now, how can I temp. from these, so that the replicas can exchange ... You can't, I would say. The system you have requires so many replicas to exchange properly from the two temperature extremes you set up. As you have seen, if you pick up temperatures in that range r

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry for that, I explain it again. Actually, I used the this link to generate a temp. distribution. But I can do REMD for 56 replicas only, as I have 56 processors available. The t-remd calculator provides 220 temperature values : 300.00, 301.01, 302.02, 303.04, 304.06, 305.08, 306.11, 307.14, 30

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread massimo sandal
I don't understand your question. If you got the temperature distribution, what else do you need? 2013/4/23 bharat gupta > I have got the temperature distribution from the same link, but how to > select evenly spaced temperatures for 56 replicas, I need to know that > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 a

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
I have got the temperature distribution from the same link, but how to select evenly spaced temperatures for 56 replicas, I need to know that On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, massimo sandal wrote: > Look here: http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/ > > > > 2013/4/23 bharat gupta > > > Dear gmx users, >

Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread massimo sandal
Look here: http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/ 2013/4/23 bharat gupta > Dear gmx users, > > I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system > (27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to 500. I want to > select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose som

[gmx-users] Fwd: Selecting the temperature distribution

2013-04-23 Thread bharat gupta
Dear gmx users, I am planning to run REMD for a peptide (406 atoms )+ solvent system (27639). The temperature range I selected is from 300 to 500. I want to select appropriate temp. for 56 replicas. I randomly chose some temp distribution and the exchange probabilities was 0.0. I know that we can