Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-18 Thread Kavyashree M
Ok Thanks. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: > > > Kavyashree M wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Thank you. I got the point but I have a doubt, >> "equilibrate under NPT until the pressure and >> temperature are stable, then switch to NVT to >> eliminate the boiling issue", how ex

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Kavyashree M wrote: Hello, Thank you. I got the point but I have a doubt, "equilibrate under NPT until the pressure and temperature are stable, then switch to NVT to eliminate the boiling issue", how exactly it will eliminate the boiling issue if we dont use higher pressure while equlibrating?

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-18 Thread Kavyashree M
Hello, Thank you. I got the point but I have a doubt, "equilibrate under NPT until the pressure and temperature are stable, then switch to NVT to eliminate the boiling issue", how exactly it will eliminate the boiling issue if we dont use higher pressure while equlibrating? (as you said that it is

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Kavyashree M wrote: Ok, The protein I am going to simulate is from a hyperthermophilic organism which lives in deep oceanic thermal vents. so in the deep vents the pressure will be enormous. even though I do not have much information about the magnitude of pressure in that site and inside the c

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Kavyashree M
Ok, The protein I am going to simulate is from a hyperthermophilic organism which lives in deep oceanic thermal vents. so in the deep vents the pressure will be enormous. even though I do not have much information about the magnitude of pressure in that site and inside the cell of that organism.. I

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Kavyashree M wrote: Hello, I am sorry those were two different questions.. I wanted to know what this statement actually mean? "The set pressure should reflect whatever system you are trying to model." You haven't fully explained what exactly you're trying to do yet, so I'm taking a stab

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Kavyashree M
Hello, I am sorry those were two different questions.. I wanted to know what this statement actually mean? "The set pressure should reflect whatever system you are trying to model." Thank you With Regards Kavya > > I don't see the connection to my comment about pressure, but I'll address > this

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Kavyashree M
Hello, Yes, I have come across that but If the temperature is below the boiling point its fine. But if it crosses the boiling temperature in order keep the water as liquid isnt it necessary to increase the pressure. I understand that the water models do not exactly predict the transition temperatu

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Kavyashree M wrote: Hello, The set pressure should reflect whatever system you are trying to model. This statement is not very clear to me.. But when the mdout.mdp file after grompp during energy minimization is examined it says - gen-vel = no gen-temp

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Kavyashree M
Hello, The set pressure should reflect whatever system you are trying to model. > This statement is not very clear to me.. But when the mdout.mdp file after grompp during energy minimization is examined it says - gen-vel = no gen-temp = 300 gen-seed

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Mark Abraham
On 17/10/2011 10:58 PM, bipin singh wrote: I have not understood what you mean by "Energy minimization is (theoretically) at 0 K, as there are no velocities and it is not a true dynamical process." It is clear to me that at 0K there would be no velocities but then why during minimization we expec

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Daniel Adriano Silva M
In the energy minimisation step, any "conformational rearrangement" taking place is not a function of time, it is just an algorithm for reaching a basin of minimum energy: (http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Energy_Minimisation), hence there are not velocities in the atoms of the sy

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread bipin singh
I have not understood what you mean by "Energy minimization is (theoretically) at 0 K, as there are no velocities and it is not a true dynamical process." It is clear to me that at 0K there would be no velocities but then why during minimization we expect some conformational rearrangement of side c

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread bipin singh
Well,as I found in literatures people have used same( 1 atm) pressure at high temperature simulations(NPT simulations). with different water models.As most of the force field parameters are determined generally at 300K and 1 atm. What would be the the possible drawbacks of using the same pressure(o

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Kavyashree M wrote: Thank you, What about the pressure that need to be used at that temperature (for a system of a protein in tip4p water) The set pressure should reflect whatever system you are trying to model. -Justin Thank you With Regards Kavya On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, bipin

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
bipin singh wrote: As far as I know we do energy minimization at room temperature only. Energy minimization is (theoretically) at 0 K, as there are no velocities and it is not a true dynamical process. Only during equilibration (NVT and NPT) we use high temperature for maintaining proper

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Kavyashree M
Thank you, What about the pressure that need to be used at that temperature (for a system of a protein in tip4p water) Thank you With Regards Kavya On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, bipin singh wrote: > As far as I know we do energy minimization at room temperature only. > Only during equilibra

Re: [gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread bipin singh
As far as I know we do energy minimization at room temperature only. Only during equilibration (NVT and NPT) we use high temperature for maintaining proper density before starting the final production run. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 15:15, Kavyashree M wrote: > Dear users, > > For simulating a prote

[gmx-users] High temperature Simulation

2011-10-17 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users, For simulating a protein at high temperature (more than 300K, less than 400K) using OPLSAA forcefield, what are the parameters other than Temperature that need to be taken care of? Does the energy minimization step also needs to be done at high temperature? (here my aim is not to simul