Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Thank you! Steven On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote: > > > On 10/10/13 10:01 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: > >> Thanks a lot. I will use position restraints then with a strong force >> constant, no bonds and place the edge atoms within half of distance >> between >> them from th

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 10/10/13 10:01 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: Thanks a lot. I will use position restraints then with a strong force constant, no bonds and place the edge atoms within half of distance between them from the box edge. Is that correct? Seems reasonable. One way to find out... -Justin -- ==

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Thanks a lot. I will use position restraints then with a strong force constant, no bonds and place the edge atoms within half of distance between them from the box edge. Is that correct? Steven On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote: > > > On 10/10/13 9:54 AM, Steven Neumann wrot

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 10/10/13 9:54 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: Thank you. I do not have any explicit solvent in my system. I included the solvent in nonbonded parameters so not even implicit. Well, presumably you have other things in the system, otherwise you're simulating an inert tube of non-interacting atom

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 10/10/13 9:53 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: Thank you. Would both be equal in terms of gaining computational time? No idea. You definitely would not gain anything from using the [nonbond_params] approach. Maybe with exclusions. -Justin --

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Thank you. I do not have any explicit solvent in my system. I included the solvent in nonbonded parameters so not even implicit. Steven On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote: > > > On 10/10/13 9:44 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: > >> Thanks. I will place them then within the distance

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Thank you. Would both be equal in terms of gaining computational time? Steven On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote: > > > On 10/10/13 9:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: > >> And also ... my tube has 1200 atoms and I wish to apply [ exclusions ] - >> is >> there any gmx tool to excl

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 10/10/13 9:44 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: Thanks. I will place them then within the distance from the box edge = distance between atoms within the tube right? I can create bonds and use harmonic spring constant like for backbone protein atoms...but whats the point when they do not move anyway?

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 10/10/13 9:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: And also ... my tube has 1200 atoms and I wish to apply [ exclusions ] - is there any gmx tool to exclude interactions within the given molecule so 1 with all 1200, 2 with all 1200...etc... 1200 with all 1200? No, but it's a simple script to write s

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Thanks. I will place them then within the distance from the box edge = distance between atoms within the tube right? I can create bonds and use harmonic spring constant like for backbone protein atoms...but whats the point when they do not move anyway? I am using NVT. Steven On Thu, Oct 10, 2013

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
And also ... my tube has 1200 atoms and I wish to apply [ exclusions ] - is there any gmx tool to exclude interactions within the given molecule so 1 with all 1200, 2 with all 1200...etc... 1200 with all 1200? Steven On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Steven Neumann wrote: > Thanks a lot. You the

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 10/10/13 9:34 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: Thanks a lot. You the bond as a distance between atoms? I wish to avoid bonds as they are not necessary...just position restraint. What would be the force constant? I tried 1000 once without bonds and my atoms were moving a bit... If you don't have

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
Thanks a lot. You the bond as a distance between atoms? I wish to avoid bonds as they are not necessary...just position restraint. What would be the force constant? I tried 1000 once without bonds and my atoms were moving a bit... Steven On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote: >

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 10/10/13 9:21 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: How about applying position restarints with a strong force constant? What is less computationally expensive: position restrained, freezing the whole molecule? The nanotube should be rigid... Shall I place the edged of the You shouldn't see any real p

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-10-10 Thread Steven Neumann
How about applying position restarints with a strong force constant? What is less computationally expensive: position restrained, freezing the whole molecule? The nanotube should be rigid... Shall I place the edged of the tube on the box edge as well and use pbc=xyz and periodic molecules = yes? T

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 9/26/13 10:19 AM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban wrote: I am just curious why the system would explode without "periodic_molecules = yes". If the PBC procedure is applied before harmonic bond potential is calculated, than the opposite nanotube atoms should be (already) seen as neighboring. This looks the

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 9/26/13 12:05 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban wrote: Steven - I would use a simple harmonic bond. Note that either in the case of the distance restraint or harmonic interaction approach, both the CNT and the molecule to which it is tethered need to be in the same [moleculetype], so run pdb2gmx (

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
Steven - I would use a simple harmonic bond. Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Steven Neumann wrote: > Thank you for this. And also I wish to attach a chain to my nanotube so they > will be both able to move together. Is that a matter of distance restraints > between nanot

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Steven Neumann
Thank you for this. And also I wish to attach a chain to my nanotube so they will be both able to move together. Is that a matter of distance restraints between nanotube atom and first atom of my chain or again - LINCS? Both chain and nanotube are made of the same type of 8 type of atoms. Please, a

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
I am just curious why the system would explode without "periodic_molecules = yes". If the PBC procedure is applied before harmonic bond potential is calculated, than the opposite nanotube atoms should be (already) seen as neighboring. This looks the same as the solvent molecule, one atom of which c

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 9/26/13 8:39 AM, Steven Neumann wrote: Dear Gmx Users, I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght. Which mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension? another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the nanotube or constraints

Re: [gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
I think this is in topology, not in MDP. With PBC, you just specify what happens to the particle after it crosses the edge of the box in certain direction. I have no preference regarding LINCS vs harmonic bonds. You can also "freeze" only the rim atoms of the nanotube from both ends and this will

[gmx-users] carbon nanotube - ifnite in length ?

2013-09-26 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear Gmx Users, I have my carbon nanotube and I wish to make it infinite in lenght. Which mdp options whall be used? pbc = xy and z is the infinite dimension? another issue: Would you apply bonds between carbon atoms within the nanotube or constraints using LINCS? Which of them is less computation